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Topic: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone? (Read 5180 times)
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Colin Cruddace
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I'm just a couple of hundred yards from there. If you let me know his name and the year I can check it out. 
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Colin Cruddace
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Hi Gary,
Thanks for the plot details, they should make him easier to find.
Colin
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Colin Cruddace
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Hello Gary.
I've been to the cemetery but unfortunately there is no headstone. I checked with Parks and Cemeteries to confirm the plot details and they also confirmed that there was no mention of a headstone for him when safety checks were undertaken.
Sorry,
Colin
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KJP
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Hello, my Great Grandfather and Mother and family lived at 7 Church Road Sheriff Hill from approx. 1914 to 1920/22, they were called Mangan and came to England from Kildare Ireland in the early 1900's, they and some of the family are buried in St Oswalds RC Church Cemetery Wrekenton, I intend to visit to see if their graves can be identified, does anyone have any photos of the area of 7 Church Road from that time as I think that part is not there anymore, I have tried the isee Gateshead site without success, or does anyone know of the family.
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rhall36
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I'm originally from that area, and in the website "isee.gateshead.gov.uk" there is a phot of Church Road, looking East. I would guess the address must be on the right (North) side of the road. If the number from Sodhouse Bank, I knew the family of Billy Pharoh's live in the second or third cottage in 1942 - and they were old cottages then.
The 1895 Ordnance map shows three attached cottages, and then a 'detached' home. In 1895 there were no homes on the south side of Church Road (my father, born in 1914 remembers the homes being built on the right hand side - circa 1925), so your family must have lived in the cottages mentioned.
Regards, Rob Hall, Katy, TEXAS
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KJP
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Hello, I had a look on Google Map and the Address 7 Church Road is still there, there are two cottages no's 5 and 7 however I do not know if the two cottages look old enough to have been around 1914 - 1920's, there is a photo on isee Gateshead showing the same two cottages which looks to have been taken possibly 1930 ish as there is not a date on the photo but not sure if they could have been around earlier. Anyone any further info/photos.
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jeffery1_6
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Hello,
I'm wondering if you could help me please?
A William Parkin (born Felling or Felling Shaw, c. 1826) married a Mary Brown (born Gateshead, c. 1828) at All Saints in Newcastle on 30th March 1851. On their marriage certificate, William's fathers details are given as John Parkin (deceased), occupation Waterman. Mary's father is William Brown, Viewer.
As William was born in Felling/Felling Shaw, I've been trying to find his father John but have been struggling.
I have found a John Parkin, aged 34 in the Gateshead Fell Lunatic Asylum in 1841. His occupation is given as 'P Mariner'. I'm presuming the P stands for Past as those in the Asylum who have any occupations against them are all preceded with the letter P? He was not born in County Durham.
I can't seem to find this John in the 1851 census and am wondering if this may be Williams father?
I'm wondering if you have come across any headstones for a John Parkin which may fit with this please?
Many thanks. 
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jeffery1_6
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Hi Gary,
Thanks for that...............yes, I found a death for a John Parkin in 1849 in Gateshead on FreeBMD and as I couldn't find him anywhere in the 1851 census (together with John Parkin being deceased by the time his son married), I thought he was perhaps the most likely candidate.
I was working on the assumption (correct or otherwise) that Mariner and Waterman could be interchangable.
Have you any idea where people from the asylum were buried at that time? Would they have been unmarked graves do you think?
If John died in the asylum, is his death certificate likely to provide any useful info with regards to his relatives/family or would it just be asylum details? 
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rhall36
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A couple of bits of info which may, or may not be relevant. I remember a Mr & Mrs PARKIN lived on Glynwood Gardens circa 1950. I was young so don't know their first names.
I also remember the 'Sylum Square on Church Road before it was demolished. And on the 1895 Ordnance map of Sheriff Hill, it shows "Potter's Field' on Sodhouse Bank, just north of Blue Quarries Road. Could this be where the deceased inmates were buried? In fact, on one of the buildings on the west sde of Sodhouse Bank, there is an inscription Potter's Field 1822.
Regards, Rob Hall, Katy, TEXAS
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