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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #75 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 18:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jeffery

There is a photograph & a brief history of the asylum at this link http://www.rootschat.com/links/05z3/
I am guessing as regard the burial place for the inmate's but St Johns would be the logical place.
I would imagine not many inmates received a burial with a headstone. As for the death certificate I would think a member of staff would have been the person to report the death.

Added: A waterman was apparently a ferryman.

Gary
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 18:33 UTC (UK) »

KJP
A photograph of 7 Church Road taken 01/04/09.



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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 21:28 UTC (UK) »

I understand from my father, who was born in 1914, he remembers these houses, (on the south side of the road) and Rosewood Gardens, being built circa 1920. As I said before, on the 1895 Ordnace map, the only 4 cottages on Church Road on the north side of the road. I remember these cottages from when I went to Sheriff Hill Primary School 1941 - 1945.

The asylum, after closing down, was used to house really poor people, and I remeber visiting relatives there, circa 1942. It was commonly called the'Sylum Square.'

Rob Hall,   Katy, TEXAS
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #78 on: Thursday 02 April 09 12:42 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Gary and Rob for your feedback..........much appreciated.  Smiley
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #79 on: Saturday 04 April 09 16:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I wonder if you or anyone can help!  I'm researching the Waters family from Gateshead Fell in the late 1780's and into about 1840 in particular Joseph born about 1783 and his family - Alexander, William, Joseph, Mark, Mary, Jane, James, Margaret and Thomas all born between 1813 - 1835 with the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th children born in High Felling and baptized in High Felling Weslyan Methodist Chapel.  I feel sure that Joseph had brothers/sisters and one of them may have had a daughter Sarah Waters born about 1826 in High Felling. Any information about this family would be appreciated. Regards, Jess
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #80 on: Saturday 04 April 09 19:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jess

Welcome to RootsChat. I have a photograph of a gravestone for a Thomas Waters died 1917 aged 80 his wife Isabella Jane died 1920 aged 77 and thier eldest son Joseph died 1890 aged 29. The stone is broken and part of it is missing. The gravestone is in Gateshead East Cemetery.

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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #81 on: Sunday 05 April 09 17:46 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for the photo Preshous, do you mean no. 7 is the house or the cottage just in the picture on the left, according to google map the cottage to the left is No. 7 but not sure how accurate it is. I have now confirmed from the Gateshead electoral rolls that the Mangan Family were living at No. 7 Church Road at least until 1928, possibly longer as my Great Grandfather Christopher Mangan died 1931 and his Wife Mary 1930 and by that time all of their children had married and were living elsewhere.
On another matter has anyone heard of Mill Cottage Sheriff Hill as my Great Aunt Agnes Kelly, Nee Mangan, was living there with my Great Uncle Aaron Kelly and their family early 1920's, have a number of Baptism records for their children from St Oswalds RC Church Wrekenton from the early 1920's which all show Mill Cottage as their parents Agnes and Aaron's home.

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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #82 on: Sunday 05 April 09 18:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi KJP

The house with the for sale sign is number 7 Church Road. Looking at OS maps the house's that you see today do not appear until after 1930 indeed old maps show that they were the first buildings to occupy the site since 1865.
I can only assume that the previous number 7 Church Road was elswhere on church road and was demolished prior to the new number 7 being built.

Gary
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #83 on: Monday 06 April 09 12:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi Gary

Thank you so much for your reply.  Unfortunatley I don't think this is one of my Waters family.  The only Thomas I can find married to Isabella was born in Cumberland.

I think that my Joseph left Gateshead Fell probably around the time of the 1810 miners strike but returned with his bride and brought up his family there but left again possibly at the time of the 1831 strike.  By the 1841 census they were living in Dewley. 

The rest of Joseph's family [I assume he had brothers and sisters] possibly stayed around the 'Fell' area but I can only find a Thomas Waters in Wrekenton born about the same time as Joseph.  James Waters and Margaret Spence may have been his parents but I have no solid evidence of this.

It's like looking for a needle in a haystack...I had no idea there were so many 'Waters' around!

Best regards
Jess


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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #84 on: Monday 13 April 09 21:09 UTC (UK) »

Hello MIS, I've been doing some research for a relative whose ancestors came to Sydney from Durham in the 1880s. He was John Brown and worked at the Sheriff Hill Pottery Factory. He married Jane Best 1866 in Gateshead. I've found them in 1871 (Sheriff hill west side schedule 6) and 1881 census returns, but with so many of those names around, confirming their parents has been diffiicult. I was hoping you may get a chance to check the marriage register and see if their parents are listed (and anything else useful). 
Marriage is John BROWN and Jane BEST; at Gateshead in December quarter 1866. Registered Vol 10a, page 894.
Really appreciate any assist.
Regards, MickM
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #85 on: Friday 26 June 09 22:32 UTC (UK) »

To Jeffery and Gary in particular. While I had previeously suggested that the inmates of the Sheriff hill Asylum would be buied ont the site oh Hodkin Park; because of the wall marker Potters ? on Sodhouse Bank. But I was looking at St Jhon's burial records, and came across a George HALL, (hopefully not my relation).

He died at the Sheriff Hill Asylum in 1858 Oct, aged 39, and was buried at St John's. So maybe the inmates were burried at St John's

Regards, Rob HALL, Katy, TEXAS
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #86 on: Sunday 28 June 09 19:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rob

As you know I have photographed all the available gravestones at St Johns and I can not see one for the George Hall you mention. I have a feeling that any one from the asylum buried in St Johns would have been done so in an unmarked grave.
Gary
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 09:32 UTC (UK) »

The addresses below are those of my great grandparents Robert and Elizabeth Mary Atkinson -she formerly McNally daughter of John and Margaret McNally of CHURCH WALK.
Elizabeth was born 28 June 1855 - Church Walk

1881 they lived at 34 Peareth Street, Gateshead,Durham England
1891 living at 19 Liddell Tce,Gateshead, Durham England RG12 /4176 F143 P32
1901 living at 9 Robert Place, Gateshead, Durham, England RG13/4752 F5 P1&2

Would these house be standing today?

Also would you have any Atkinson or McNallys among your cemetery photographs please?
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 19:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi Telephonist

Peareth Street long gone http://www.rootschat.com/links/06lo/

Liddell Terrace appears to be still there NE8 1YN
Robert Place also long gone.

I dont have any photographs of McNally gravestones, but I have quite a few Atkinsons.
If you have names and dates I will check them out.

Gary
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Re: Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?
« Reply #89 on: Friday 03 July 09 18:23 UTC (UK) »

Can you see if you have anything on a couple of other Millers - Ralph Miller buried Oct 21st 1862 and James Miller aged 3 in 1862 also.
Also a Gilbert Miller died 4th qtr 1863.

Hi Lesley I have checked trough my database and unfortunately there are no stones for your Miller's. Here is a list of what I do have just in case you recognize any of them.

1 Agnes Home Miller died 1948 aged 66.
2 John Miller  died 1885 aged 60 + Jane Miller died 1892 aged 61
3 Benjamin Miller died 1932 adged 60 + Cecilia Miller died 1949 aged 73
4 Eleanor Miller died 1916 aged 72 + John Kirsopp Miller died 1918 aged 76
5 Sarah Jane Miller died 1931 aged 51 + Joseph Arnell Miller 1969 aged 90
6 William Miller died 1968 aged 69 + David Miller died 1977 aged 37 + Victor Miller died 2002 aged 62
7 Isabella Margaret Ann Miller died 1891 aged 28 + Mossman Miller died 1910 aged 51

Gary

Hi,
I was playing on the internet when I found this post and just got sooooooo excited, Eleanor Miller (nee Arnell) was daughter of Joseph Arnell ( a weaver) who died in Wrekenton Assylum. Joseph was born c1759 and died in 1844 - he is as far back as I have managed to trace. Any and all information regarding Arnell's / Millers would be very greatfully received. The Arnell's were "big" methodists and Joseph's sons from his first marriage, Joseph and Thomas were stonemasons. I'm hoping to track down a few more ancestors !
Thanks,
Louise
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