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Author Topic: Census details, the ROGERS Family, Prices Risborough, please.  (Read 857 times)
petey22
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Charles Bocking Rogers and 6 sons.1902 Hendon.


Census details, the ROGERS Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« on: Saturday 25 October 08 19:04 UTC (UK) »

dear all
I am looking for a George Rogers born c1885, Princess Risborough, Bucks. He marries an Evelyn Mary Shurrock, born c1885, Long Crendon, Bucks,,,,, well sorry, that's all I have, sorry to be so vague  Roll Eyes
I hope that there are not too many Rogers's in Princess Risborough at that time  Huh
Oh yes, their first and subsequent children are all born in Wembley Middlesex, the first being born in c1905 and am still searching for their marriage.
all the best
Pete Rogers
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Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 October 08 19:06 UTC (UK) »

Where did you get the info re: his birthyear and birthplace
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Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 October 08 19:12 UTC (UK) »



Hi Pete
 
1891 census
RG12.  P.  1143  Fol. 11  Pg. 16


Church Street, Princes Risborough

ROGERS
George  Head  M  36  Maltster   B.  Bucks, Askett, M. Risboro
Mary  Wife  M  33                       B. Surrey, Shere
Charles  Son  8
George  Son  6
Roland  Son  3
Percy  Son  1

children all born Princes Riborough
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Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
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Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 October 08 19:18 UTC (UK) »


This doesn't quite match, the lady's middle and surname are slightly out, and it seems to be a tad late, but:

Marriage :Q3. 1906  Thame, Buks.  Vol 3a.  Pg. 2007
George Rogers and Evelyn May Sherrock on the same page.

How sure of you of the birth year of the eldest child?  What was the name ?
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Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
petey22
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Charles Bocking Rogers and 6 sons.1902 Hendon.


Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 October 08 19:21 UTC (UK) »

hi there
the info I recieved is from a small tree with very little detail on Genes-reunited, I dont know where the info comes from, and I can only assume that it has been copied from another tree  Huh
I'm hoping to make some kind of sense of it and build a serious tree to see if it has any connection to my own tree as i have a link to princes Risborough some years later. A bit of a hunch really, many of the childrens names of George and Evelyn occur in previous generations in my tree and Wembley/Hendon is where many of my Roger's end up. If only the 1911 Census details where available !
Pete Roll Eyes
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Charles Bocking Rogers and 6 sons.1902 Hendon.


Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 October 08 19:27 UTC (UK) »

hi Mum44
the kids names are ; George Henry Roland Rogers c1905, Evelyn c1906, Frederick c1909, Rosaline c1911, unknown female c1918, Murial c1919 and Sheila c1930, all born Wembley, Middx, all names appear in other generations of my tree except for Sheila, a bit vague I know and am busy searching free BMD for the births but not having too much success.
Incidentally I have a date of death of 1966 for George snr. and 1970 for Evelyn snr.
all the best
Pete
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Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 October 08 19:28 UTC (UK) »


1891
RG12  P. 1161  Fol. 96  Pg. 14

Bicester Road, Lond Crendon

SHURROCK  (indexed Thurrock)

Henry  Head  M  29  Ag Lab  B.  Bucks  Easington
Rose  J  Wife  M  26               B.  Bucks, Shabbington
Henry  Son  7                        B.  Bucks, Long Crendon
Eveline M  Dau  6                   B.     ~            ~
Herbert R.  Son  3                 B.  Bucks  Illmire
Alice  G  Dau  2                      B.  Bucks  Long Crendon

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Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 October 08 19:46 UTC (UK) »

HI,

I must concentrate more!!! Undecided
Peony
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Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 October 08 20:00 UTC (UK) »


Pete Hi

George Henry R Rogers  Q1. 1907  Hendon.


George Rogers Q1. 1885 Wycombe (district for Princes Risborough)

Peony - think his parents were George and Mary, and he doesn't appear to have had a middle name......
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 25 October 08 20:08 UTC (UK) »



Pete

Given that the date for George Henry Roland was off, it's a bit difficult to be sure about the others, because Hendon district is littered with Rogers  Cheesy

Do you have any other middle initials ?
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
petey22
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Charles Bocking Rogers and 6 sons.1902 Hendon.


Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 25 October 08 20:21 UTC (UK) »

hi again,
yes I'm having problems with searching for the births of their children too, the only middle name I have is for Rosaline (Mary) Rogers c1911. The fact that the place of birth is given as Wembley, Middx is given for each child is a little suspect, more than often it does vary with most families, so I am assuming that Wembley is guesed ? I shal contact this chap again and ask where his information comes from.
Pete
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Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 25 October 08 20:40 UTC (UK) »



Pete - I think asking him some more is an excellent idea  Grin

It gets a bit shadowy, I must admit.  Wemby was in Hendon district until 1947, when it was transferred to Willesden.  Willesden was in Hendon district until Oct 1909 when it became its own district.

I mention this because  -  Muriel L Rogers was registered Willesden Q4. 1915  mothers maiden name Shurrock.

 There are three others registered in Willesden - mothers maiden name Sherrock,  which was the name on the marriage  Undecided

They are:

Frederick P  Q3. 1912
Constance E  Q3. 1914
Joan  Q4. 1924

all of which could be the right ones with a typo  Sad  Huh  Undecided

Of course, those between 1906 and 1912 dont have the mother's maiden name on the index, and therefore either of these Evelyns could be the one:
Evelyn Emma  Q2. 1908
Evelyn May  Q4. 1908  (same middle name as mother, so favourite
both registered Hendon

There is also a Frederick Joseph Q1. 1910 Hendon, no mother's name on.

I'll have another look for Rosaline Mary....
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Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
petey22
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Charles Bocking Rogers and 6 sons.1902 Hendon.


Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 25 October 08 20:53 UTC (UK) »

OK, contacted him again, expect a reply tommorrow, dont think it will be sooner
Pete
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Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 25 October 08 21:00 UTC (UK) »


I've found Rosaline Mary  :  Q2. 1910  Willesden

So - this looks like the picture:

George Henry Roland B. 1907
Evelyn May B. 1908

Both these are registered in Hendon.

Rosline Mary  b. 1910
Frederick P  b. 1912
Constance E  b. 1914
Muriel L  b. 1915
Joan  b. 1924

These are registered in Willesden;  this fits with the movement of Willesden from Hendon District in 1909   Cheesy

Incidentally, I would guess that Frederick's middle name was Percy - mum had a  brother named Percy   Cheesy
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
petey22
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Charles Bocking Rogers and 6 sons.1902 Hendon.


Re: Census details, the Rogers Family, Prices Risborough, please.
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 26 October 08 17:13 UTC (UK) »

hi again,
yes, the registration district is very confusing, thank you for the time periods for Wembley and all the birth entries, I'll compair them with the Free BMD results I have as I have 3/4 possibilities each time and this will narrow it down.
OK, I got a reply from my contact, great chap and very honest, seems that all is 'copy+paste', from others with no back-up from certificates/parish records etc, not even census material.  So, I went in search of who is the origin of this research but it is impossible to find,,,,, so many have just copied and pasted, that the trail is dead,,, the danger of such site I guess Huh??
Well I did find someone who seems to have managed to get quite a bit together and it has revealed a few new things ;
i. firstly, George c1885 has another elder brother, Frederick Rogers c1881, Bucks, nothing more than that.
maybe someone can find the 1881 census details, or is that free on IGI ? the 1901 Census would be very welcome  Roll Eyes
ii. The parents of George c1855 are ; John Rogers c1831, Monks Ris., Bucks and Sarah King c1836 (unknown) birth place.
iii. Hmmmmm, looking further, John's siblings are ; Abel c1833, Elizabeth c1835, Rebbeca c1837, Gaius c1840, dies 1842, James c1846, all born Monks Ris. Bucks and parents ; William Rogers c1811 Monks Ris. and Harriet Smith c1812, Monks Ris.
Well, that's a turn up for the books !!! it even gives Parents of William c1811 as Joseph Rogers c1777 of Monks Ris and Hannah (unknown) c1750.
iv. Received a Gedcom file from my original contact, but cant open it ! I hope to purchase Family tree maker pretty soon though, from Ancestry I believe ? If anyone would be so kind as to check it out for me in the mean time, just send a PM and I'll e-mail it.
all the best
Pete Grin
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