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fmni
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Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« on: Tuesday 28 October 08 16:14 UTC (UK) »



This is a picture I have of Derriaghy Loyal Orange Lodge No. 135 - taken on the 12th July 1934. I would like to try and find out about some of the people in this picture and would hope that perhaps living relatives may come across this and recognise someone in the picture or recognise a name.

Back Row: R Bunting, J Smith, G Wallace, R Hall, John McFarland, P McKinstrey, J McWatters Jun., F Murphy, E Burke, R K Long, J May, R K Megran, S Murland, S Dugan

Middle Row: W J McWatters, R MacHenry, J Berry, D McKinstrey, J McWatters Sen., J Grant, M McCarrell, T Dugan, R Refausse, W Glover Sen., James McFarland, W Refausse, R Taggart, H V Refausse, A Dugan, P McHenry, R Watson

Front Row: F Larmour, E Robinson, W Glover Jun., D G Morrow, R Refausse, W A Long, J Brown, H MacHenry, N Brown, W G Long, A Refausse, G Wright, R J Leckey

Seated Children: T Hall, J Dugan, J Hanna, S Dugan, A May


 The actual picture itself is much bigger and very clear so individuals can be blown up and viewed if desired. I would love to hear from anyone who may have a family connection with the lodge and if anyone is interested in a particular individual from the picture, let me know and I will see what I can find.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 04:38 UTC (UK) »

Hello fmni,

There's one surname that stands out. I've sent you a PM with the name of a person it might be worthwhile contacting as I'm certain that a family with that surname lived in
the Derriaghy area.

Christopher
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 December 08 04:50 UTC (UK) »

I am interested in your post on several scores. There's one name on the photo - RJ Leckey  - he may, or may not, be connected to a William(Billy) Leckey,wno m'd my aunt Martha Mc Dowell.(They lived near Derriaghy church for years,then Seymour Hill) Her sister Mary Mc Dowell m'd a Johnny Hill,from Dunmurry.Another sister,Nancy Mc Dowell m'd Stephen Mc Alister.(my parents) My Blacks and Mc Dowells lived at Lambeg. The Mc Dowells attended Derriaghy C.ofI.
William John Mc Dowell (my grandfather,father of Martha and Mary)came from Magheralin,but lived his life,after marriage to Elizabeth Black,at Lambeg,and died there. ( Elizabeth's sister Jane Black m'd James Irwin and lived at Lambeg too)
In Co Down - I am looking for info on a Henry Mc Carthy/Macaugherty who possibly married a Dolly Titterington c 1825/30 in Moira/Banbridge/Hillsborough area.(my paternal line. Mc Alister/Mc Carthy/Macaugherty)Any help appreciated. Agnetta
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 December 08 16:58 UTC (UK) »

I'm hoping with the imminent release of the 1911 census I will be able to build a better profile of some of these individuals.

Interesting to see you have a Titterington in your clan as well - my Titterington's are from Moira - haven't come across a Dolly as yet though.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 December 08 05:54 UTC (UK) »

I think "Dolly" is a pet /short name for Dorothy. Agnetta
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 18:56 UTC (UK) »

The photo shows my father, Harold Refausse, when he was 20 and my grandfather Robert when he was 52 both in the middle row. It's hard to tell from the photo but I think the W Refausse is William who would have been 27 and who emigrated to the US, the other R Refausse a Robert Anthony and the A Refausse an Anthony who would have been about 56.

Is it possible to get a copy of the photograph?
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 December 08 12:13 UTC (UK) »

Rush, I will send you a PM. I remember "H.V." as he was known in the lodge very well - and he would have been good friends with my own father. To be honest I have been trying to track down his relatives for quite a while!
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 January 09 19:36 UTC (UK) »

Rush1, here is both your father and grandfather close up in the photograph...

Harold Refausse:



Robert Refausse:



I would still be keen to chat with you about their involvement in the lodge and hopefully get to you a copy of the full picture, would be nice for you to have considering how many relatives are in it.

Regards,
Mark

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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 January 09 17:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I would be interested to know if you know anymore about F Larmour.  My Larmours' are from this area.

Maggie
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 11 June 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »


fmni
Thank you for photograph of above subject. I think R. Watson may have been my great uncle , Richard Watson. I have been trying to trace the family back through his brother Anthony. According to 1911 cencus I think their parents were Eleanor and James living at 37 Lagmore Derriaghy. Anthony was my grandfather.
If anyone else reading this could help me it would be much appreciated.
Anthony lived and worked at Lagmore Reservoir and died Dec 1938 when his son also Anthony [known as Tony] took over his duties, and was there until the 1970s.
Sadly the reservoir has gone but I have happy childhood memories of a beautiful place.
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Looking for help researching Watsons in Lagmore, Lambeg and Colin areas of Derriaghy. My g'parents are in 1911 census and were married in Christ Church Derriaghy in 1909. I think g'grandparents are in same census living in Lambeg. Grandfather Anthony was very involved in the local Gospel Hall.
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »

I've attached the oldest photograph we have of another lodge in the District, Falls L.O.L. 498.

Unfortunately the names of those in the photograph are not recorded however it is thought the photograph was taken between 1919 & 1925.  It was taken outside McCance House which is now part of Colin Glen Forest Park.

It is a long shot, but if anyone recognises people in this photo or believe their relatives where a member of the lodge please do not hesitate to comment.


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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 October 09 17:12 UTC (UK) »

R McFarland and J McFarland are my grandfather's brothers. Robert and James. Their sister Alice Adamson was the W District Mistress of Derriaghy WLOL at one time. My Grandfater was William Fair McFarland, he moved to the Low Road area of Lisburn about 40s or 50s where he lived until his death in 1973.
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 29 October 09 22:46 UTC (UK) »

I just love the pictures that have been put up for everyone. My grandfather Boomer Partridge was in the LOL 602 in Derriaghy. If anyone else has any link or pictures  to them I would appreciate it. I do have a picture but don't know how to put it online.


fmni, the second post was from Christopher and he sent you a pm with a name. He was doing a lot of research for me on the belfast site. I was wondering if it was Boomer Partridge or a Leckey.
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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 October 09 08:08 UTC (UK) »

Flower 123,
                 I have just noticed the detail of your posting and have found:-

25 Feb 1882 James Watson married Ellenor Crowe in Derriaghy Church of Ireland, Lisburn.

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Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 October 09 10:09 UTC (UK) »

I just love the pictures that have been put up for everyone. My grandfather Boomer Partridge was in the LOL 602 in Derriaghy. If anyone else has any link or pictures  to them I would appreciate it. I do have a picture but don't know how to put it online.


fmni, the second post was from Christopher and he sent you a pm with a name. He was doing a lot of research for me on the belfast site. I was wondering if it was Boomer Partridge or a Leckey.


Hi mykin,

your post has me intrigued! I've come across the Boomer Partridge name before but can't remember where.... the Partridge surname is prolific in the Orange Order in Derriaghy towards the end of the 1800s. However, there has never been an LOL 602 in the Derriaghy area. LOL602 are from the Hillsborough area, namely Tullynore LOL 602. Where have you got the 602 number from - is it the picture? The earliest reference I have to a 'Partridge' is John Partridge, who was Worshipful Master of Derriaghy LOL 135 in 1856 and again a reference to him still being W.M. in 1875. A roll book was recently found for Royal Black Preceptory Number 2, Juniper's Tree dating from the 1800s - they were also based in Derriaghy, in the last entry of that book from 1880 a James Partridge is named.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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