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777dixie
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Stoop Hi Dixie here great to read your words and memories of Greenbrae, Sammy Harkness sculptor and his brother the electrician Wully ( went on to be QOS chairman) Iain Mc Chestney (nutty ) was a spark and played for Queens, The prty you refer to was it not held the lane up to the field at the bottom of the loaning, and the Glendinnings lived in the next house the son was in the navy I think?.Its great how they all flood back, do you remember Mathie Coid He stayed just at the lamp post across from the Teanans ( he had two Peg leg's and they did not bend at the knee, worked at the gassworks in Brooms road,I can remember being sent for coke for the fire and creosote for the shed, cheer's. Bert (777dixie )
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stoop
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Hi Dixie, the Coids lived next door to us, we lived at 3, and 4 . I have a recollection of a Peggy Coid who tragically died young of cancer. Regards stoop. I can remember him.
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flower power
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Hi All
Bert I think will be Bert Dickson who had brothers Tony and Logan? Tony lives not far from me and is married to Christine. I see Logan occasionally, walking his dog on the Annan Road.
Lynda Cannon did have red hair, as did her sisters Anne and Irene, while Susan had fair hair. Sad to say Lynda died earlier this year and I met up with her sisters and family at her funeral.
I also remember that Mr Johnstone (Schooner) made haggis for the butchers. His son Stanford had a pub in Dumfries and his daughter Ruby also lives fairly near me in Georgetown. There was another daughter, but I can't remember her name.
That's all for now folks . Flower Power
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flower power
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Hi, it's flower power again!
I lived in Greenbrae Loaning from 1950 to 1967, so in fact it was 17 years, not 15 as I previously said.
Didn't know that the land the new council houses were built on belonged to the Carson's. That's interesting!
I believe the house the Carson's lived in now belongs to Kathleen Scaife, who was brought up by her aunt Miss Wilson, who ran a small private children's nursery just across the road from there.
I remember when the new park at Noblehill was built and the diggers etc were there creating the football pitches.
We used to ride our bikes up and down the paths in the older park, I remember the swings and the maypole.
All our games were played in the road - hopscotch (beds we called them) marbles, hula hoops, rounders, tennis ( with a line drawn in chalk for the net), roller skates, slides (on the ice, as you said). We could do that then as the volume of traffic was much less than today.
Aye, it was grand to be a child at that time. We didn't have much, but we didn't weary and were never bored, we made our own entertainment. Happy days!
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stoop
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I attended Noblehill school from 1951 till 1958 and then moved on to Marchmount. I remember some of the teachers names at primary school , there was the head Andy Young, Mrs. Colthart and Mrs. Sturgeon, I still have school photos from then and remember a few of their names. I recall that after heavy rain the lowest part of the school yard used to flood and make it difficult to access the dinner hall. The Christmas party involved the parents taking in party food and cmaking the decorations. Regards stoop.
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dogilover
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::)hi scoop. i lived in greenbrae from my birth in 1953 until approx 1965 when my family moved from the area. i went to marchmount after noblehill. indeed i remember the coids cannons, the butchers and the sweetie shop but whatever happened to mr austin (i think) from lockerbie road who was a chiropodist and his wife and daughter rene whom i used to play with??? there also used to be an old mans shelter in the old park and an allotments at the bottom to the right of the park. its been great catching up with a few old memories of my neighbour on the loaning.....dogilover
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777dixie
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Flower Power Hi, Dixie here you are spot on B.D. And Black Sheep In family( enough) I do remember all that you say about the loaning including the small nursery at the bottom right hand side, there was a corrigated iron clad shed between there and Crathie Ave it was painted red, My grannie's Gentleman friend kept his car in there with some others his name was Willie Reilly from the glasgow area. You mention schooner I left the butchers in greenbrae and went to work with him at Mathew Flemings on the High st in dumfries. that was before going to the Railway as an apprentice Fitter, small world isnt it Cheers Bert.
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kojak
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Hi folks,
Sorry I havent had a chance to come back with my findings from the valuation rolls - I have been really busy chasing my wife round the hoose and garden.
I will get to the records, so please bear with me.
Kojak
:-)
I have also been busy chasing up another family search - link here as some may find it interesting:-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,310034.0.html
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Green, Gibson, Ross, Telfer, Jardine, Hay, Kennedy, Dickson, in Dumfriesshire esp Lochmaben and Kirkcudbright
Thom (Banffshire and Renfrewshire), Cormack & McBain in Ross and Cromerty and Banffshire/Aberdeenshire
McClelland, MacNeill, MacCully, Carson, Northern Ireland
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kojak
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Hi folks,
ok now that I have stopped chasing the wife around the garden, I have dug deep into my boxes of family history and the following info is taken directly from copied valuation rolls in respect of the proprietors and tenants of properties at Greenbrae Loaning / Terrace for the years stated. I will have another look if I have more years covered.
Starting in 1912-13 Valuation Roll for Burgh of Dumfries - 8th Ward
Greenbrae Terrace is listed under description of place
Lockerbie Road is listed under situation
134 - 136 (4 properties in total) all Lockerbie Road were owned by John S Dykes, hairdresser
The tenants were as follows:
132 - Miss Mary Pool
134 - William Leiper, gardener
136 - David Tweedie, sawyer
136 - Empty
136 - William Nicholson
136 - Empty
Also along Lockerbie Road at No. 148 was a shop owned by Mrs Jane Swan and occupied by Jean Kay. No 146 was the house that was associated to the shop. The valuation roll doesn’t state what the shop was.
1914-15 Valuation Roll for Burgh of Dumfries - 8th Ward
Same above except for the following
Greenbrae Loaning
136 - Empty properties occupied by Miss Sarah Nicholson and Mrs Agnes Green
William Nicholson had seemingly vacated his home (or had died) as Mrs Elizabeth Hobens was living there in 1914.
Also Listed along Greenbrae Loaning were the following accounts:
William McLellan (proprietor of the following properties)
126 - John Graham, labourer
126 - Miss Jean Rogerson
126 - James, Gillies, plate maker
126 - Miss Mary Tyers
128 - Andrew Wyllie, engine driver
130 - Robert Boyd, carter
1915-16 Valuation Roll for Burgh of Dumfries - 8th Ward
No 148 is listed as being occupied by a James Kay, a grocer
126 - John Graham, labourer
126 - Miss Jean Rogerson
126 - James Gillies, platelayer
126 - Miss Mary Tyers
128 - Andrew Brown, motor worker
130 - Robert Currie, fireman
132 - as above
134 - as above
136 - John Dickie, farm worker
136 - as above
136 - as above
136 - as above
Things did not seem to change until 1919-20
Houses un-numbered and listed under Greenbrae Loaning at Lindsay Place belonging to the Reprs of the late Mrs Margaret Thorpe, 75 Minard Road, Crossmyloof, Glasgow.
James Coid, van man
James Charters, butcher (listed resident until 1923)
Charles Henry Body, waggon fitter
William Jardine, retired
John J Dickie, labourer
Miss Jessie Cowan
Houses owned by the Trustees of the late James Teenan (horse dealer)
Robert Paul, soldier
William Connell, labourer
Mrs Agnes Green
Valuation Rolls for 1919-1925 also lists a property at Glenholme, Lockerbie Road (un-numbered) belonging to
Robert Thomson Miller, butcher - proprietor and occupier.
Not sure if any of this is relevant to anyone contributing to this thread but it marks a starting point for the valuation roll information I have on Greenbrae loaning.
I will look to see if I have later Roll records and will report back.
Kojak
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Green, Gibson, Ross, Telfer, Jardine, Hay, Kennedy, Dickson, in Dumfriesshire esp Lochmaben and Kirkcudbright
Thom (Banffshire and Renfrewshire), Cormack & McBain in Ross and Cromerty and Banffshire/Aberdeenshire
McClelland, MacNeill, MacCully, Carson, Northern Ireland
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777dixie
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Hi Kojak,
Thanks for the info I will print and study its amazing to read the history of the area in which one was brought up in, any thing else you find will be great thanks, Bert (777dixie )
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stoop
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Hi Kojak, just to respond to your latest, In a previous message Imentioned that the Coids lived to one side of my cottage on the other side was miss Cowan , I lived in Greenbrae until 1959 it looks as if they had lived there a long time. Regards stoop.
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dogilover
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So much has been written regarding the Loaning and i have very fond memories of when i stayed there as a child. I used to save up my comics such as the Bunty and Jackie and cycle round the corner with them to the fever hospital adjacent to the new park. Ive no doubt other comics belonging to my 2 sisters and brother were in the bag also, but as i left dumfries approx 1966/7 i often wonder what that hospital is now. How we enjoyed playing beds on the pavement and chap door run was a firm favourite much to the annoyance of the neighbours. On a recent visit to a relative i drove past my old house and apart from a garage it looked just as i remembered it and aroused floods of memories of when i stayed there, and can anyone enlighten me as to what happened to Jane Trotter, my friend, who lived at the stoop? Many thanks, Dogilover
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Glensav
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Hi Greenbrae folks,
My great aunts the Glendinnings lived at the bottom of the loaning and we spent all our holidays as children there and loved it. I used to go through the park to Noblehill cafe which had the best ice lollies in the shape of animals. My mother always told me not to go near the old man's shelter! I remember Swan's farm- didn't they have a race horse called Black Jack?
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who remembers the Glendinnings.
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777dixie
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Glensav, Hi 777dixie here. Ref the Glendinnings of greenbrae I am sure I recall them was the son not always away in the navy I don't know if it was the royal or merchant but I remember the dark uniform, and next door going up the loaning were the Jeffery's I think that was a mother and son ( Billy ) who tragically took his own life in the small bore rifle club in Newall Terr in Dumfries ( the reason I do remember it was that later that year his mother asked me if I would like a motor bike, his one in 100 bits he had been restoring it, I said yes and used a wheel barrow to move it up to Ivy Cottage where I lived, for what its worth that started me on a life of engineering once I got it built and running), I digress answer to the original question was yes I do remember them.
Cheers Dixie
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stoop
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Hello all , although the name Glendenning sounds familiar I cannot recall anyone specifically. Iwonder if anyone out there have any photographs of the loaning as it was. When today I see the cottage where I was brought up made characterless it is quite sad, there is little indication of it being built using sandstone. Regards stoop.
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