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Topic: Why was he named Holland? (Read 792 times)
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libby9
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Hi there
You asked why he was called Holland. If you look at the history of 1814 it was the end of the Napolionic Wars and Holland became Holland that year after the merger of the North and South of the country/ Holland helped Napoleon in his wars. Therefore the conclusion could be that Holland was a name in the news and even if you didnt get a newspaper or have TV lol, the name Holland would have been a big name in that year, especially if Holland was born around or after March April of 1814/
regards Sandymc
Hi Sandymc,
Thanks so much for this. Holland was baptised 6//11/1814 so seems to be around the right time to fit with your info. and therefore could explain his unusual name.
Thanks very much 
Libby
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dobfarm
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Granny Tidmarsh (Maiden name Mary Fletcher b1874 )
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Hannah (Annie) Dyson Bapt Jun 1755 Lightcliffe Bailiff bridge Clifton
JOHN HARGREAVES
Christening: 04 FEB 1753 Lightcliffe, Bailiff bridge Clifton
Yorkshire, England of JAMES HARGREAVES
JOHN HARGREAVES
HANNAH DYSON Marriage: 15th Feb 1774 Halifax
THOMAS HARGREAVES
Christening: 25 JAN 1786 Halifax, Yorkshire, England of JOHN HARGREAVES source Halifax Bishops transcripts
Thomas On the Halifax Church records is Ja's Hargeaves bapt 25-1-1786
Bolton
Halifax, Calderdale
Bolton Illingworth Halifax, Calderdale
BRADFORD DEED BOX COLLECTIONS
Deed Box 39: Miscellaneous collections relating to the Bradford district
Bradford GB 202 ----WYAS
DB39/C37/9
Title help Agreement
Date help 8 Feb 1765
Description help 1 Benjamin Mortimer of Bolton, weaver
2 JAMES HARGREAVES of Bolton, weaver
Property: concerning a dwelling house, a barn and other buildings,
and closes of land called Little Delf Close, Great Delf Close,
Four Days Work, Lower Summering, Upper Summering, the Paddock, and Garding,
in Bolton [Low Fold Farm]
Dobfarm 
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Derbyshire, Warwick. Yorkshire, Stafford and Worcestershire.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth.
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libby9
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Hi Dobby ,
I logged on earlier and saw your info but I had a house full of people at the time and couldn't concentrate. Anyhow I couldn't wait to get back to the thread, so here I am. It was worth the wait.
It now all seems to be falling into place and all thanks to you. After dinner I'll take a look at my cd. As I mentioned to you, a possible first child for Thomas James and Mary was Hannah, so John Hargreaves and Hannah Dyson must be the parents of Thomas James.
Dobby, thank you so much for all your help, I couldn't have got this far without you.
From a very grateful, Libby
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libby9
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Cheers, Dobs
Wills index it is.
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libby9
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Very informative. Cheers, Dobs
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Hannah (Annie) Dyson Bapt Jun 1755 Lightcliffe Bailiff bridge Clifton JOHN HARGREAVES Christening: 04 FEB 1753 Lightcliffe, Bailiff bridge Clifton Yorkshire, England of JAMES HARGREAVESJOHN HARGREAVES HANNAH DYSON Marriage: 15th Feb 1774 Halifax THOMAS HARGREAVES
Christening: 25 JAN 1786 Halifax, Yorkshire, England of JOHN HARGREAVES source Halifax Bishops transcripts
Thomas On the Halifax Church records is Ja's Hargeaves bapt 25-1-1786Bolton Halifax, Calderdale Bolton Illingworth Halifax, Calderdale BRADFORD DEED BOX COLLECTIONS Deed Box 39: Miscellaneous collections relating to the Bradford district Bradford GB 202 ----WYAS DB39/C37/9 Title help Agreement Date help 8 Feb 1765 Description help 1 Benjamin Mortimer of Bolton, weaver 2 JAMES HARGREAVES of Bolton, weaver Property: concerning a dwelling house, a barn and other buildings, and closes of land called Little Delf Close, Great Delf Close, Four Days Work, Lower Summering, Upper Summering, the Paddock, and Garding, in Bolton [Low Fold Farm] Dobfarm As topic The country of Holland is the most likely source for his name as post in this tread also the infamous John Holland of Lightcliffe. plenty on the net about him! :)Regard Dobby
Nothing can be certain pre 1837 but with Holland's bapt 1814 having Thomas/ James on the bishops transcripts also above said seperate Ja's/ Thomas 1786 entires. to a high Degree and location Lightcliffe parents bapts at Bailiff Bridge as 1851c of Thomas
As Halifax Library and WYAS
Thomas's Death certificate 1858 Leeds Gro Will prove his birth year
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libby9
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Dobby, thanks so much for all your help . You have invested so much into helping me and I truly appreciate it
I believe your research has resulted in finding Holland's paternal grandparents. I couldn't have got there without you.
Ta very much pal
Libby
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