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Sandra Skinner
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HITCHCOX Family
« on: Wednesday 29 October 08 22:10 UTC (UK) »

Looking for any information about the family of Marmaduke Hitchcox. Marriage, siblings, children etc. He was my husband's gggg grandfather. His son George Albert Hitchcox came here to Australia in 1854-1856. Have entry from 1841 census. Hoping s'one else may be researching this family and we can share our knowledge.In the census an Elizabeth Hime is mentioned. Not sure if this is his wife or mother in law or sister in law.


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CaroleW
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Re: Hitchcox
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 22:20 UTC (UK) »

Aged 45 in 1841 and shown as not b Buckinghamshire which was where he was living at that time.  Birthyear would be around 1796 

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MARMADUKE HITCHCOCKS   Christening:  25 MAR 1796   Chadlington, Oxford
 
Father:  SAMUEL HITCHCOCKS   Mother:  SARAH
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Re: Hitchcox
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 22:23 UTC (UK) »

and again from www.familysearch.org

MARMADUKE HITCHCOK   Spouse:  ELIZA MARY HEINE   Marriage:  19 SEP 1825   West Wycombe, Buckingham
 
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Sandra Skinner
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Re: Hitchcox
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 22:33 UTC (UK) »

  Smiley Smiley Smiley Thanks Carol. Had the marriage but not the birth. Still wondering if the Elizabeth Hime in the census is his wife. If so can't understand why she would have used her maiden name.
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Re: Hitchcox
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 22:51 UTC (UK) »

In 1841 - Elizabeth is not shown under Marmaduke - his daughter Maria is.  This is usually a sign that he was a widower

Elizabeth is (I think) 50 and shown as of independent means so I doubt she is the Eliza he married but could possibly be his mother in law if Eliza was a lot younger than him
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Sandra Skinner
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Re: Hitchcox
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 23:38 UTC (UK) »

Yes I agree. I will persevere. Perhaps if she is alive in the 1851 census I might have some luck. Will look next time I go to the family history centre.
Thanks once again for your help.
Sandra  Smiley
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Re: Hitchcox
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 October 08 00:03 UTC (UK) »

I've checked the 1851 and came up with this entry for Bedfordshire - just a VERY longshot!!

Thomas Hine 69 surveyor and land valuer b Bedfordshire
Elizabeth 64 b Bucks Filgrove

As Elizabeth would have been 54 in 1841, her age would have been rounded down to 50 and with a husband with that occupation she would have certainly been of independent means
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Re: Hitchcox
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 October 08 00:09 UTC (UK) »

Thanks sounds promising, I'll see if I can trace Eliza Mary back to them.  Smiley
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Re: Hitchcox
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 December 08 14:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sandra
I am a Hitchcox from Banbury Oxon.
Although I have not found a link with me I have been looking at the Marmadukes of which there are several. They appear from My part of the world just into Northamptonshire in Middleton Cheney.
I note that yours at Great Marlow was a saddler as the Hitchcox's from Middleton are also Saddlers and have Marmadukes in their line. the first I have found is Richard Hitchcox Mrd. 1765 In Middleton to Mary Maltus. he was a saddler as were some of his childrenhe he has a Marmaduke who was born and died 1774/5. The Marmadukes continue through in our area untill one born in 1924. I also looked at Shoreditch and found Menella (on 1841 census Great Marlow) Marrying a Samuel Harris in 1853.
There were also 3 chldren born and dying in Shoreditch at this time Elizabeth Heine Hitchcox B& D 1850, Marmaduke George B&D1851/2 Sands B&D 1853. also a Maria who appears to have lived 1854. David Hitchcox
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Re: Hitchcox
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 18:30 UTC (UK) »

Sandra
I'm descended from Mary Hitchcox of Middleton Cheney, who married Edward Bustin in 1841.  They are shown in the 1841 Census onwards in Middleton and are my gt-gt-gt-grandparents and are the Middleton family referred to by David.  The Marmaduke Hitchcox shown living with them in the 1851 Census was Mary H's illegitimate son baptised in Banbury in 1830; in 1841 he is shown living with his grandmother, Elizabeth Hitchcox, at Middleton.  With such an uncommon first name, I'm certain that all the Marmadukes are related, but haven't linked them all yet.
George Albert Hitchcox (GA), cabinet maker and son of Marmaduke Hitchcox (harness maker) married Elizabeth Hall at Shoreditch Register Office on 27/11/1849.  The 1851 Census shows him living at 16 Gloster [Gloucester?) Street, Shoreditch and confirms he was born at Great Marlow.  There were three separate households at No. 16, the second being a James and Susannah Jackson and the third being Thomas and Eliza hall and family, who I think were GA's parents-in-law.  One of GA's children was called Marmaduke George, born 27/8/1851 and died 20/10/1852 of pneumonia.  Interestingly one of my related Hitchcox familes in Banbury in mid 19th century had a child called Marmaduke George (baptised at Middleton in 1826) which supports my assumption that they're all related.
Marmaduke Hitchcox (GA's father) died at Great Marlow in 1845 age 49, which links in with the Marmaduke baptism at Chadlington in 1796.
I assume this is the line you're searching for.  Maybe we'll be able to link our respective lines!
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Re: HITCHCOX
« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 January 09 18:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sandra

Marmaduke Hitchcox's wife Eliza Mary Heine is a direct descendent of a sideline on one of my trees so I can give you outline information on her side (assuming you are interested) going back to the 1600s [the tree is very large after about 9 years research].  She was the illegitimate daughter of George Albreckt Heine and Elizabeth Chapman, although Elizabeth assumed George's surname and was buried as that in Great Marlow in 1851.  George Heine died in 1815 and left a Will in which he left bequests to both Eliza Mary Heine and Elizabeth Chapman.  PM me an email address (would not recommend publishing it on the forum) and I'll send you some information.  All I have on George Albert was his baptism in Great Marlow and his marriage in 1849 in Shoreditch Registration District to Elizabeth Hall.  Obviously he disappeared off my radar after the 1851 census if he went to Australia!!

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Middlesex: Briggs, Sadler, Dyson, Hyatt, Haydon, Timson, Stevens, Archer, Goreing, Fray, Clements, Pauley
Surrey: Pledge, Mayer, Tim(p)son, Rayment
Essex: Fennings, Rudland, Malden, Rayment, Walker, Isack, Syday, Gray, Green,
Kent: Stone, Lingwell, Rayment
Herts: Hutchin(g)s, Winchester, Hughes
Norfolk: Johnson
Dorset: Gibbs, Gor(e)ing
Wiltshire: Archer, Matthews, Arden, Greenhill
Durham: Fowles, Green
Somerset: Coombs
Berks: Sansom, Day, Young, Viner, Deacon,
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Re: HITCHCOX Family
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 January 09 21:31 UTC (UK) »

Hello Sandra

My g-g-grandmother was Menella Chapman Hitchcox (born about 1833 in Great Marlow) who married Samuel Harris the cabinet maker on 17th April 1853 at Shoreditch Register Office.  The marriage certificate gives her father as Marmaduke Hitchcox, Harness maker (deceased) who I think was the one trading as a Saddler in Great Marlow.  The witnesses at Menella and Samuel's wedding were Elizabeth and George Albert Hitchcox.  It looks as if Menella and George Albert were siblings. 

I knew that a Marmaduke George Hitchcox died in Shoreditch in 1852 -- I'd assumed that this was Menella's father and that the family and Samuel had moved to London, Shoreditch being a stronghold of cabinet makers.  However, if Marmaduke the father died in Marlow then the 1852 death was probably a son of Geo Albert.

The forename Sands crops up quite a few times in the Hitchcox and Chapman families, particularly in Bucks, and I think it goes back at least to Elizabeth Chapman.  A few years ago I was in contact with a descendant of Thomas Chapman (who was I think a connection of Elizabeth) and she was enquiring about the names Hitchcox and Menella, so there are evidently a number of descendants still about and searching.

There's also a webpage that I found (but you may already have seen it or it may be one of your family!) which mentions Geo Albert H in Australia at http://members.pcug.org.au/~phodge/Family/wga5.html but gives his mother as Mary.

Hope you manage to get the various Marmadukes straight!

Best wishes

Meryll
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Anglesey: Pritchard & Mathew(s)
Bedfordshire: Veal. Money, Willson
Northants: Wills, Trench, Coles
Bucks: Hitchcox
London: Wills, Harris, Jones
Devon: Woodgates
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Re: HITCHCOX Family
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 31 January 09 16:32 UTC (UK) »

Meryll

The baptisms of the children of Marmaduke Hitchcox and Eliza Mary Heine/Chapman were as follows:

Mary Hitchcock - baptised 5 Jan 1826 Great Marlow
George Albert Hitchcok - baptised 7 May 1829 Great Marlow
Martha Hitchcock - baptism not found in Great Marlow, but born about 1831
Samuel Sands Hitchcock - baptism 19 Feb 1832 Great Marlow
Menella Chapman Hitchcock - baptism 8 Aug 1835

Menella will have been born the previous year because her mother was buried at Great Marlow on 14 Sept 1834.  She probably died in or just after childbirth I would imagine.  Marmaduke Hitchcock was buried at Great Marlow on 18 Feb 1845.

If anyone knows who Samuel Sands Hitchcock married in 1852, I'd be interested to know since he died in 1857.

The earliest instance of the Sands name is in the Chapman family of Wicken, Northamptonshire from which the Heine/Chapman/Hitchcock line descend.  Sands Chapman son of Thomas Chapman and Bridget was baptised at Wicken on 21 May 1659 and died there about 1735 (he left a Will proven that year).  Bridget Chapman may well have been Bridget Sands but no trace of her marriage exists.  The Sands name also runs through the Read family of Wicken, descending from the marriage of Samuel Read and Ann Chapman in 1732.  This is my line.  There are a lot of descendents about of the Read family, particularly on Genes Reunited, but less down the Chapman line directly.

Sandra I haven't forgotten I said I would send you some more information, just haven't got round to sorting it out yet!

Nicola
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Middlesex: Briggs, Sadler, Dyson, Hyatt, Haydon, Timson, Stevens, Archer, Goreing, Fray, Clements, Pauley
Surrey: Pledge, Mayer, Tim(p)son, Rayment
Essex: Fennings, Rudland, Malden, Rayment, Walker, Isack, Syday, Gray, Green,
Kent: Stone, Lingwell, Rayment
Herts: Hutchin(g)s, Winchester, Hughes
Norfolk: Johnson
Dorset: Gibbs, Gor(e)ing
Wiltshire: Archer, Matthews, Arden, Greenhill
Durham: Fowles, Green
Somerset: Coombs
Berks: Sansom, Day, Young, Viner, Deacon,
& numerous others!
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Re: HITCHCOX Family
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 01 February 09 13:00 UTC (UK) »

Dear Nicola

Thanks for your information -- it has straightened out several things I had surmised but not confirmed and it's great to have detailed dates.  I'd noticed that the surname Read came up frequently on a BMD search for the forename Sands, so it's good to know that it's continued down several strands from the same source.

I did have a photograph of Marmaduke and Eliza Mary's gravestone kindly emailed to me by the lady I mentioned, but unfortunately that was among the things I lost when my hard drive died (most things were backed up or printed out, but not that).

I had spotted Samuel Sands Hitchcox, but like you I haven't found out anything further than the fact that he married and died not many years after.

Once again, thank you for your help.

Meryll
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Anglesey: Pritchard & Mathew(s)
Bedfordshire: Veal. Money, Willson
Northants: Wills, Trench, Coles
Bucks: Hitchcox
London: Wills, Harris, Jones
Devon: Woodgates
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Re: HITCHCOX Family
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 01 February 09 13:37 UTC (UK) »

Meryll

I think we've both had contact with the same lady, although I haven't had any contact recently.  If you PM me an email address I can send you a copy of the grave photograph.

Nicola
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Middlesex: Briggs, Sadler, Dyson, Hyatt, Haydon, Timson, Stevens, Archer, Goreing, Fray, Clements, Pauley
Surrey: Pledge, Mayer, Tim(p)son, Rayment
Essex: Fennings, Rudland, Malden, Rayment, Walker, Isack, Syday, Gray, Green,
Kent: Stone, Lingwell, Rayment
Herts: Hutchin(g)s, Winchester, Hughes
Norfolk: Johnson
Dorset: Gibbs, Gor(e)ing
Wiltshire: Archer, Matthews, Arden, Greenhill
Durham: Fowles, Green
Somerset: Coombs
Berks: Sansom, Day, Young, Viner, Deacon,
& numerous others!
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