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Topic: Fish Shop in Andover (Read 980 times)
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rovert
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Hello everyone, I have been doing my tree now for over 10yrs, and during that time i have been aware of a (maybe) fish shop in Andover which my ggrandparents Frederick John Knight and his wife, used to have. Fishmongers on the Knight family go back to Abraham and Ann, Abraham was born 1792 in Andover. But on the census rcords occ coming down through the line is Fishmonger, or fish Hawker.
Just recently i have met up with other members of my family, who have all heard the same thing that there was indeed a Fish Shop In Andover.
Frederick died in 1936, Jane in 1937. Both in Portland Place. they also lived in chantry Street and New Street, Can anyone tell me how I can get evidence of its existence, or does somebody know of it. Grateful for any help TY
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Judd - Croydon Surrey
Venner, Coote - Beckenham, West Wickham, Bromley Kent
Shepston - Westminster London Middlesex, Bristol
Knight - Deane & Andover Hampshire
Bull - Chimney sweeps, south of England
Bowles - Winterbourne Gunner & PlaitfordWiltshire
Kirby - Kings Somborne Hampshire
Winter - Plaitford & Landford Wiltshire
Arter - Plaitford & Sherfield English Hampshire
Clark - Hayling Island Hampshire
Pink - Hinton Ampner Hampshire & West Witteri
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hampshire-grandma
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Sorry can't help with the fish shop. I grew up in Andover in the 40s and 50s and the only fish shop I remember was called Burdens and was on the corner of the High St. and Bridge St.
My reason for writing, however is to do with seeing the BULL chimney sweeps among your interests. I remember as a child in Andover seeing a poem written in large letters on the side of a house in East St. It began "Luke Bull lives here, sweeps your chimneys far and near" My brother remembers all of it, and if you contact Andover Museum they would give you a copy, as I know it's there. Andover library have a collection of old local photos, both in books and separately. Hampshire Record Office has a huge collection of photos.
Hampshire Grandma
While researching family in Whitchurch, Hants I have seen Bull chimney sweeps there too.
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rovert
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TY Grandma for your reply, yes I have seen Luke Bull,s inscription. I have researched the Bull side, but it,s complicated and ongoing. (what tree isn,t lol ), I used to visit Andover to see my grandparents, dad was born there. The Fish Shop keeps coming back to haunt me. I will take your advice and contact the library.
Ty again Rovert
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Judd - Croydon Surrey
Venner, Coote - Beckenham, West Wickham, Bromley Kent
Shepston - Westminster London Middlesex, Bristol
Knight - Deane & Andover Hampshire
Bull - Chimney sweeps, south of England
Bowles - Winterbourne Gunner & PlaitfordWiltshire
Kirby - Kings Somborne Hampshire
Winter - Plaitford & Landford Wiltshire
Arter - Plaitford & Sherfield English Hampshire
Clark - Hayling Island Hampshire
Pink - Hinton Ampner Hampshire & West Witteri
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bearkat
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The Hampshire CALM database has something for Abraham KNIGHT of Andover - perhaps the father of the Abraham you mention. It may mention his occupation.
http://calm.hants.gov.uk/DServe/
but the site is down again at the moment. 
Have you tried Historical Directories?
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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linden
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Maybe you could write something in the Andover Advertiser
Regards ,
Linden
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bearkat
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The Hampshire Calm database is working again (but you may have to be quick - it's been very temperamental recently)
Administration of Abraham Knight of Andover, Hampshire dated 1784
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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leanneb
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Hi
I too am looking for the fish shop/fishmongers of andover. My search is in relation to the Shipton family, i dont have the details with me on which member and date, this is an impromptu message as i was just browsing!
Anyway if you do manage to find anything on a fish shop and dont mind sharing i will be most grateful!
Regards
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Leone
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Rovert - I googled West Wickham Coote and found your post on this site. I have Venner-Coote in my tree. I'm new to this site - how do we discuss the connection/share trees?
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Gorsuch/Barker
Smith/Batchelor
Thompson/Adlington/Sutherland
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anguskirk
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Hi
You might be interested in the attached photo taken in the 1930s of a fish shop and poulterers in Bridge Street, Andover, named Clark Bros. It is taken from the book 'Old Andover' by CJJ Berry (published by Standard Press, Andover in 1976). Up to the 1960s, I think, there was a branch of the "John Eighteen" fishmongers in the upper High Street.
You could contact Antony Raper of the Andover History and Archaeology Society at anthony.raper@btinternet.com and ask if they have published anything on old businesses in the town.
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anguskirk
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Hi Rovert
I've looked through the various histories of Andover in the Library including the publications of the Andover History and Archaeology Society. The only other mention of a fishmonger was a firm called Howards in 1953, but that doesn't mean too much if your relatives traded from home or had, say, a market stall or a small lockup. A hawker would usually sell his wares on the street from a basket or barrow.
In the 1889 Kellys Directory for Andover a Fred Knight is listed as the proprietor of a Pork Butchers at 83 High Street Andover.
Regards,
Angus
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anguskirk
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leanneb,
I found Joseph "Joey" Shipton in the same book I mentioned in an earlier post. His fishmongers was at No. 1 High Street, Andover. The book says that Joeys' daughter kept the sweet shop next door, and round the corner in Bridge Street they also had a basket shop.
No 1 was acquired by the H.W. (Harry) Burden mentioned in another post, who moved from a shop at 56 High Street. The address became known as Burdens Corner and the business survived up to the 1980's.
Regards,
Angus
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