Puffcat
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Henry Charles Vickress married Elizabeth Postians in June 1902 at Pembridge.
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cimbrio
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Thank you Puffcat. I'm trying to find out if they had any children but nothing yet.
I have found that John Vickress (b.1890), son of William Vickress (1859-1936) and Ellen Morris (1855-1924), married Ellen Rawlings and had the following children:
*William T.J. Vickress (1912), married Dorothy Hancocks, and were the parents of Roy W.R. Vickress (1934)
*Milbore P.L. Vickress (1914)
*Ellen M. Vickress (1916)
*Austen J. Vickress (1918)
*Robert F. Vickress (1921)
*Arthur R. Vickress (1923)
*Lawton R. Vickress (1925)
*Derick C. Vickress (1929)
John's sister Milborough Vickress (1892) married (1916) Austin T. Jenksm and were the parents of:
*Doris M. Jenks (1917)
*Joyce M. jenks (1928)
John and Milborough's sister Ann Drusilla (1893) married (1921) John F. Green, and were the parents of:
*Jack F.W. Green (1922)
*Bertram R. Green (1924)
*Kathleen Green (1928)
*Doris M. Green (1930)
I wonder whether any of these are still alive! I'd so much like to find out more about them. I didn't realsie this at first but the Vickress family is huge, and it pretty much looks like all the Vickresses in Herefordshire are related to me.
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Puffcat
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Possibly a Daisy in 1904 is daughter to Charles Henry and Elizabeth.
1911 Census would confirm
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Spidermonkey
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I had a look at the transcript for Daisy on the 1911, and she is the daughter of an Elizabeth Vickress aged 44, bn in Eardisland. Elizabeth is listed as married but doesn't give the number of years married. No husband appears on the transcript.
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cimbrio
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News!
Charles Henry Vickress (b. Sep 1870) was NOT the son of Frederick Vickress and Ann née Tippins, but rather the son of Edward Vickress and Ann (maiden name for the moment unknown). The only Edward I've found is one born in 1835, son of Mary Ann Vickress (there is a Henry Edward Vickress, 1830-1875, but I don't think it's him) and unknown father. I think it's the Mary Ann Vickress born in 1813, elder sister of Frederick Vickress, so Edward was Frederick's nephew and Charles Henry his great-nephew).
If anyone can confirm this (census info etc) please confirm so I can change Charles Henry's position on the tree.
Thanks!
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cimbrio
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And a Mary Ann Vickress (the same one as the mother maybe?) married Joseph Caldwell in Hope under Dinmore on April 17th 1837. Can anyone check the 1841 or 1851 census to see if there is Edward Vickress living with the Caldwell family? If it is the same Mary Ann he was certainly never legitimised as Joseph Caldwell's son... Penny for your thoughts!
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Spidermonkey
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Will have a look for you now.
Have just been looking at the Times online archive for Vickresses, and there are loads about the London Vickresses (we'll have to work out your connection to them aswell  ) But, tucked away was a couple of paragraphs about a double murder in Herefordshire  According to the paper Thomas Bown/Bounds (aged 75) shot himself after shooting dead William Alfred Vickress (aged about 45) with whom he had been living. William Vickress' daughter witnessed it 
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cimbrio
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When was that murder, Spidermonkey? Is it William Alfred Vickress who was born in 1877, son of Alfred Vickress and Hannah Orchard? He had two daughters... I initially thought I was descended from the London Vickresses, but perhaps there is a link further up...
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Spidermonkey
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Found them on the 1871, but as yet not found them on other censuses
Vern, Marden, Herefordshire
Joseph Caldwell Head Mar 58 Axe helve maker bn Herefordshire Yazor
Mary A Caldwell Wife Mar 58 bn Herefordshire Hope under Dinmore
Edward Caldwell Son Unm 36 Invalid soldier bn Herefordshire Hope under Dinmore
James Caldwell Son Unm 29 Helve maker bn herefordshire St Margarets
Selina Caldwell Dau Unm 22 bn Staffordshire Winguinford (?)
RG10; Piece: 2695; Folio: 42; Page: 5
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Puffcat
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The murder happened at Litmarsh MArden. Bown must have died there and then, but Vickres lived until the next day and died in hospital.
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Spidermonkey
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1861: South St, Leominster
Mary Ann Caldwell Wife Mar 48 bn Herefordshire Hope
James Caldwell Son Unm 19 Pike Helve Maker bn Herefordshire St MArgarets
Selina Caldwell Dau Unm 12 bn Worcestershire Kingswinford
THomas Rogers lodger mar 32 Baker and confectioner bn Radnorshire Presteigne
Henry Hayes lodger Unm 39 Cabinet maker and upholsterer bn Yorkshire Leeds
RG9; Piece: 1831; Folio: 32; Page: 15
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Spidermonkey
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1851: New Hall, Lower Gornal, Sedgley
Jos Calwell Head Mar 38 cooper bn Herefordshire, Yazor
Mary Ann Wife Mr 38 bn Herefordshire, Hope
Edward Son 16 Brickmaker bn Herefordshire, Hope
William son 13 bn Herefordshire, Hope
Elizabeth dau 11 bn Herefordshire, Hope
James son 9 bn Herefordshire, St Margaret
Drusilla dau 4 bn Herefordshire St MArgaret
Selina dau 2 bn Stafford, Kingswinford
HO107; Piece: 2030; Folio: 325; Page: 16
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Spidermonkey
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1841 census: Cubon? House, St Margarets, Herefordshire
Joseph Caldwel 26 Cooper
Mary Ann Caldwell 26
Edward Caldwell 6
William Caldwell 3
Elizabeth Caldwell 2
All born in county
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