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Puffcat
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Spidermonkey
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Sorry if i came across as terse then, trying to type as few a words as poss, one handed whilst jiggling son around 
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Puffcat
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No it was me not putting brain into gear before typing 
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Keziahemm
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Have found two marriages, both to a Sarah, for Mantilian Cartwright in marriage index
6th June 1772 at Almeley
Mantilian Cartwright = Sarah Watkins
23rd November 1802 at Staunton-on-Wye
Mantilion Cartwright = Sarah Morgan (Groom from Kington)
Susan
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Keziahemm
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Samuel Morris = Anne Cartwright, Kington, 7th August 1814
The other Samuel Morris, who married Anne Derry in Kimbolt 1813, was from Ludlow.
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Susan
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Have found two marriages, both to a Sarah, for Mantilian Cartwright in marriage index 6th June 1772 at Almeley Mantilian Cartwright = Sarah Watkins 23rd November 1802 at Staunton-on-Wye Mantilion Cartwright = Sarah Morgan (Groom from Kington) Susan
So... Did Montelion/mantelion marry twice? There does seem to be a slight gap of age between Thomas Cartwright (b.1795) and the next child, James (1803); my guess is that James and Montilion Jr were mothered by Montilioon Sr's second wife, Sarah Morgan, while the first lot were the issue of Sarah Watkins... Is there any way to confirm this? What about Alexander Cartwright's children? I've found on FreeBMD that a Mantilion Cartwright died in 1838; I'm guessing it's Mantilion Jr, as the father would have died in 1810. What do you think?
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Puffcat
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The Montillion who died in 1838 was 63 !
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Spidermonkey
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A possible census return for Alexander and his family.
1841 Census Monmouthshire, Old Road, Trevethan
Alexander Cartwright 45 Labourer Not born in county
Elizabeth Cartwright 30 Not born in county
Henry Cartwright 5 Not born in county
Thomas Cartwright 2 Born in county
IGI has an entry for Thomas Patteshall Pugh Cartwright, born to Alexander and Elizabeth Cartwright, christened in Trevethin, Monmouthshire 1 Sept 1839
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1851 Census Monmouthshire
River Row, Trevithin
Alexander Cartwright H 52 Labourer in ironworks bn Herefordshire Kington
Elizabeth Cartwright W 45 bn Breconshire Llanwithals?
Evan Pugh Lodger 75 Labourer in ironworks bn Breconshire Llanwithals.
(surname transcribed on Ancestry as Cortright)
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Spidermonkey
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Perhaps for James (bn 1803)
1851 Census: Chelsea
1 James St
James Cartwright H 48 Letter carrier bn Herefordshire, Kington
Ann Cartwright W 43 bn Berks ?
Ann Cartwright D 8 bn Middlesex Chelsea
James Cartwright S 2 bn Middlesex Chelsea
1861 Census: Chelsea
4 Bucks Place
James Cartwright H 58 Letter carrier bn Herefordshire, Kingston
Ann Cartwright W 53 bn Bucks, Basildon
Annie Cartwright D 18 Student in home............bn Middlesex Chelsea
Can someone have a look over this entry - it looks like it says that Annie was a student in home and colonial something RG9 Piece 34 Folio 116 Page 12
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1871 Census
28 Grape St, Greenwich
James Cartwright H 68 Supervisor of letter carrier (I think) bn Hereford Kington
Ann Cartwright W 63 bn Berks, Basildon
Annie Cartwright D 28 Matron or school mistress? bn Middlesex Chelsea
Emma Bloomfield visitor 29 annuitant bn Middlesex Islington
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Keziahemm
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Can someone have a look over this entry - it looks like it says that Annie was a student in home and colonial something RG9 Piece 34 Folio 116 Page 12
Could be Tran g Inst (ie Training Institute) 
Susan
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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cimbrio
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I've found this page on the Watkins; they came from Staunton-upon-Wye, the same place Montelion Cart. allegedly married his second wife.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~watkinsbrown/
By the way, any news on Samuel cartwright Morris's siblings: Mary (b.1820 Kington), Edward Scarlett (b.1821 Eye), Charlotte (1826 Kington) and perhaps Caroline (1816, Grendon Bishop)?
Regarding Samuel C.M.'s daughters (for it seems Richard died single sometime after 1901), here's what I've found which seems plausible:
Catherine (b.1849 Kinnersley), married George Smith in Jun 1874 in Weobley.
Ellen (b.1855 Kinnersley) married William Vickress in Jun 1889 in Kington.
Mary (b. 1867 Kinnersley) married Amos Lane in Dec 1888 in Kington.
I thought that Samuel Morris (their brother) married Elizabeth Alice Vickress, of Deal (Kent), but in one census entry (1881, Almeley, where they lived) it says she's from Staunton-on-Arrow... 
Any help?
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Keziahemm
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1901 census Elizabeth's place of birth is also given as Staunton-on-Arrow.
RG13/2494 folio 13 page 18.
Perhaps she was working in Kent Have you found Samuel and Elizabeth's marriage?
Susan
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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