cimbrio
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Hello everyone, this is the first time I write in this forum. I hope I'll find what I'm looking for.
I'm searching any information of anyone connected with or who possesses any facts about the family of Samuel C. Morris, born 1823 in Kington (Herefordshire), christened there that same year (September 14th); exact birth date unknown; death date possibly in 1897.
Parents:
Samuel Morris (b. 1789 Hereford - Saint Peter's)
Ann Derry (christened January 2nd 1794 in Kimbolton, Herefordshire).
Siblings
James (christened 1815 Kimbolton)
Caroline (ditto 1816, Grendon Bishop)
Mary (ditto 1820 Kington)
Edward Scarlett (ditto 1821 Eye)
Charlotte (ditto 1826 Kington)
Family:
WIFE: Ellen Mound, born 1826 Wormsley.
Married 1848 Weobley.
CHILDREN:
Catherine Morris (1849 Kinnersley)
Samuel Cartwright Morris (1851 North Cannon), my ancestor.
Ellen Morris (1855 Kinnersley)
Richard Thomas Morris (1860 Kinnersley)
Mary Morris (1867 Kinnersley)
Would be grateful if you could provide me with any information, as I haven't found much on here about the Morris family. My e-mail: (*)
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Spidermonkey
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What sort of info are you after? For example do you have them on census returns?
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cimbrio
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Absolutely any sort of info would do. Dates of death, marriage, their ancestry... anything would come in handy. I once saw the census entries which more or less gave me their years of birth and so on but it was all quite limited. I'd love to know if they had any further descendants or where they came from. Thanks for any info you can forward me!
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Spidermonkey
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Ok, I've found them on some census returns. I'll have another look to see if I can find them on the other censuses.
1861 Census: Kinnersley (RG9/piece 1825/ Folio 126/ Page 16)
Samuel C Morris H 38 Journeyman carpenter bn Kington, Heref.
Ellen Morris W 36 bn Wormsley, Heref.
Catherine Morris D 12 SCholar bn Kinnersley, Heref.
Samuel Morris S 10 Scholar bn Norton Canon, Heref.
Ellen Morris D 5 Scholar bn Kinnersley, Heref.
Richard T Morris S 1 bn Kinnersley, Heref.
Samuel Morris father (widower) 72 Tailor bn Hereford St Peter
1881 Census Parton, Kinnersley (RG11/Piece 2599/Folio 121/PAge12)
Samuel Morris H 57 Labourer bn Kington, Heref.
Ellen Morris W 55 bn Wormsley, Heref.
Richard Thos Morris S 21 Labourer bn Kinnersley, Heref.
Mary Morris D 14 bn Kinnersley, Heref.
1891 Census Boltons Farm, Pembridge (RG12/Piece 2077/ Folio 95/ Page 15)
Samuel C Morris H 69 Farmer bn KIngton, Heref.
Ellen Morris W 66 bn Wormsley, Heref.
Richard T Morris S 31 bn Kinnersley, Heref.
+ 2 farm servants
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Spidermonkey
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1871 Census Kinnersley, Aily (?) Kinnersely (RG10/Piece 2706/ Folio 44/ Page 11)
Samuel C Morris H 47 Carpenter bn Kington
Ellen Morris W 45 bn Wormsley Grange
Samuel Morris S 20 Carpenter bn Norton Canon
Ellen Morris d 15 General Servant bn Kinnersley
Richard T Morris S 11 Scholar bn Kinnersley
Mary Morris D 4 bn Kinnersley
1901 Census Eardisland, Dowsage
Richard Morris H 41 Labourer on farm bn Kinnersley
Ellen Morris Mother (widowed) 75 Housekeeper bn Wormsley.
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Puffcat
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Samuel dies in May 1897 - aged 73 he was a carpenter
Ellen dies in January 1912 - aged 86. In 1901 she is living with son Richard in Eardisland
Another son Thomas born in 1853 lived for just over a year
A Samuel Morris marries Anne Derry in Kimbolton in August 1813 but there is a marriage between a Samuel Morris and Anne Cartwright in Kington also in 1813 - would you think this is more likely as the name Cartwright turns up as a middle name for Samuel 
Samuel snr [aged 61] and Ann [aged 63] were in Kinnersley with daughter Mary [aged 30] and Catherine aged 1 in 1851. She appears to be the daughter of Samuel and Ellen [Maund] while baby Samuel aged 1 month is at home with Samuel and Ellen in Norton Canon
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Puffcat
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Spidermonkey - I found Samuel down as a Carpenter and Ellen as a Carpenter's Wife on the 1881 Cenus, and Richard Thomas the son as a Labourer
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cimbrio
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Thanks Puffcat, the marriage info about Samuel marrying the Derry/Cartwright comes as a sort of surprise... I'll have to check that one out and I'll post any news. Do you have any idea where Ellen Morris died in 1912? Is anyone here related to them, by the way? Where was baby Thomas born/died?
Thanks a lot!
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cimbrio
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(And thanks to you too Spidermonkey!)
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Spidermonkey
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1841 Kington, Headbrook HO107/Piece 423/ Folio 47 / Page 28
Samuel Morris 49 Tailor
Ann Morris 53
Samuel Morris 18
Charlotte Morris 15
All born in county
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cimbrio
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So that would confirm that it is NOT Ann Derry whom Samuel married, but Ann Cartwright... which would of course be logical since their son was called Samuel Cartwright Morris... Interesting and at the same time rather disrupting - I had made my family tree through the Derries and this sort of makes it all meaningless now...
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Spidermonkey
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I'm off for the night now, but will have another crack at this tomorrow (unless Puffcat has solved all the puzzles  )
Night all
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