cimbrio
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Thanks again to you both. I'm still amazed at all the info you can find. Thanks for sharing it. I suppose now I ought to look for my Cartwright ancestors  Any idea, by the way, when Anne died?
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Spidermonkey
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A quick look on freebmd shows 33 deaths for Ann Morris in Herefordshire between 1851 and 1861. I think 5 of them were in the Presteigne registration district (which is the reg district for Kington) and 3 of them were in the Weobley reg dist (the reg dist for Kinnersley).
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Puffcat
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What could help in sorting out the 2 Anns is where Ann said she was born in 1851 and 1861 is she and Samuel were still alive.
Ages are notorious for not being accurate.
Spidermonkey - have you got this info ?
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Spidermonkey
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1851 Census Kinnersley
Samuel Morris H 61 Tailor bn All St, Hereford [All Saints, Hereford]
Ann Morris W 63 Charwoman bn Kington, Herefordshire
Mary Morris D 30 Dress maker bn Kington, Herefordshire
Catherine Morris Gdau 1 bn Kinnersley
Which makes it unlikely that Ann would have hot-footed it over to Kimbolton to get christened. Can we find an Ann Cartwright being christened in Kington?
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Spidermonkey
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On the IGI there is an extracted record for a christening for an Anne Cartwright in KIngton, on 29 Mar 1789 to Montelion (  ) Cartwright and Sarah.
Montelion/Monteleon/Montillion seems to be a recurring name for Cartwrights on the IGI in KIngton
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Spidermonkey
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Other children born to Montelion Cartwright and Sarah (in Kington) are:
RIchard (23 Apr 1779)
Thomas (5 Jun 1782)
Mary (1 Jan 1786)
Anne (29 Mar 1789)
Alexander (20 May 1792)
THomas Phillip (23 Aug 1795)
James (27 Feb 1803)
Montillion (26 May 1805)
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Spidermonkey
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http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukhfhs/mic.html
Above link should take you to Herefordshire Family History Society website with their index of monumental inscriptions. There is a Montillion Cartwright, and further down a Sarah Cartwright.
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cimbrio
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Good Heavens Spidermonkey, you're doing me a great service. Yesterday I had no idea about the existence of the Cartwrights, now thank to you I'ˇm building a whole new branch of the tree! I've ched the webpage you've mentioned, the dates would imply that Montillion Sr was born around 1736 and died in 1810; his widow Sarah (I expect there's no chance of knowing her maiden name) was born in 1753 and died in 1828. Any info on the other children (whether they married, or when they died?). By the way, do you have any idea about Samuel Morris's parentage?
I am most thankful to you both for all your help.
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Spidermonkey
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You would probably need to find the marriage between Montillion and Sarah to get her surname. It might be worth contacting either Herefordshire Family History Society or Kington HIstory Society to see if anyone else has done any work on this family. Kington History Society may be contacted c/o the Kington Library, 68 Bridge Street, Kington, Herefordshire, HR5 3DJ
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Spidermonkey
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Samuel Morris gives All Saints, and St Peter as his place of birth. Both of these parishes are in the centre of Hereford. I haven't found any online records for those parishes, so it would probably be a trip to the record office (not too far from the above churches). I've got a young baby, so I'm afraid I can't go to the record office for you, but there may be someone around who could do a quick look up for you (if you can't make it yourself).
I'll have a look and see if I can find any more info on siblings etc.
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cimbrio
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Hmmm I don't live in England (I'm Spanish, presently working as a teacher in Bulgaria), but perhaps I might find a way to ask the record office to send me some information. Thanks again for trying, I'm researching the FreeBMD info...
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Spidermonkey
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Yes, I can see that a trip to Hereford would be quite difficult I'll have a further look for info for you later on (probably tonight)
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Puffcat
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I would gamble on the 1858 death for Ann, and Samuel in 1867 - so where is he in 1861 ?
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Spidermonkey
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With his son (post 4)
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