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Puffcat
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Caroline married Robert Inglis in Eardisley in 1849
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Keziahemm
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Elizabeth Vickress, aged 4, born Staunton-on-Arrow, Herefordshire, is to be found on the 1851 Wales census, HO107/2492, folio 421 page 13, Staunton-on-Arrow, Radnorshire 
She and her brother Milbour?? are visitors with the Tippins family.
Will post details if you don't have access.
Susan 
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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cimbrio
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Well I must have seen it on one of the census available... maybe 1871... Otherwise I wouldn't have thought she came from Kent (my family has absolutely no connections there)... I've seen Samuel Morris & Elizabeth Alice Vickress marrying Sep 1876 in Kington. Oddly enough, Samuel's sister Ellen apparently also married a Vickress in Kington in Jun 1889. Perhaps I got the wrong couple... I don't know, I'm a bit lost...
PS: I can't believe the amount of help you're giving me!
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cimbrio
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I'd love to see the census where it mentions her and her brother. Any mention of parents, or other siblings? I'm guessing the William Vickress who married Samuel's sister Ellen was Elizabeth brother too...
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Spidermonkey
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Mary and Amos Lane on the 1891 Wales Census
Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
4 Bassett Terr
Amos Lane H Married 24 General Labourer bn Hereford Almeley
Mary Lane W Married 24 bn Hereford Kinnersley
Emily E Lane dau 5mnths bn Glam Eglwysilan
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Spidermonkey
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Mary has been widowed by the 1901 census
Dilwyn, Herefordshire
Headland
Mary Lane H Wid 35 Carrier Carm? bn Kinnersley, Herefordshire
Emily Lane D 10 bn Glamorgan
Thomas Lane S 8 bn Glamorgan
Catherine Lane D 5 bn Herefordshire Ocle Pychard
Sarah Pearce visitor WId bn Wormsley, Herefordshire
William Pearce son 24 Farm Labourer bn Salop Richards Castle
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Keziahemm
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1851 Wales census HO107/2492/421/13
Old Publick?, Stanton-upon-Arrow, Radnorshire
John Tippins Head M 65/8? Farm Labourer Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Susan Tippins Wife M 66 - Hereford, Pembridge
John Tippins Son UM 30 Farm Labourer Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Jonathan Tippins Son UM 35 Farm Labourer Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Susan Tippins Dau UM 18 - Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Elizabeth Vickress Visitor - 4 - Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Milbrow Vickress Visitor - 2 - Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Joshua Ti? ? Visitor 11 - Hereford, Leominster
John Hill Lodger Widower 40 Farm Labourer Hereford, Orleton
John Hill Lodger UM 13 Farm Labourer Hereford, Orleton
Mary Hill Visitor - 11 - Hereford, Orleton
Susan
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Spidermonkey
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Gosh, Milbrow and Montillion  we're starting a nice collection of names!!
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cimbrio
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I know, very weird names.
I was searching yesterday on the BMD search machine for the Vickresses, to see if there were any hints. Here's what I found:
*Frederick Vickress, died Jun 1891, Kington (I think 74 y.o).
*Daisy Elizabeth Vickress, born Sep 1904, Kington.
*Elizabeth Vickress married on Sep 1876, Kington (I didn't double-check it but I think it's the same one who married Samuel Morris).
*William Vickress, married Jun 1889 in Kington (ditto, but I think he's the one who married Ellen Morris, Samuel's younger sister; i.e. a brother and a sister from the Morris family married a sister and a brother of the Vickress family.
*William Vickress, born Sep 1845 Leominster. Could this be the same William as above, Elizabeth's brother, who married Ellen Morris in 1889?
*William Vickress, born Mar 1859 Presteigne (seems unlikely to be connected).
*Milbrow Vickress, married Mar 1887 in Weobley. Is this the Millborough who was with Elizabeth in Radnorshire in 1851?
*William Frederick Vickress, born Jun 1898 in Weobley. Milbrow's or William's son perhaps?
*Eleanor Susan Vickress, born Sep 1895 in Weobley. Ditto.
*Ann Drusilla Vickress, born Dec 1893 in Weobley. Ditto.
*John Vickress, born Jun 1890 in weobley, ditto.
*Milbrow Vickress, born Mar 1892 in Weobley. ditto.
DEATHS:
*Ellen Vickress (I suspect née Morris), died Jun 1924 in Leominster, 68 y.o. My Ellen Morris who married William Vickress was christened in October 1855, so it would fit the age.
*Millbrow Vickress, died Mar 1894, 74.y.o., in leominster. I'm suspecting the father of the three Vickress siblings.
My theory is that Millbrow Vickress and wife (name unknown for now) had at least three children:
-Elizabeth, born about 1846, married Samuel Morris in 1876. Four children.
-Millbrow/Milborough, birth date unknown, married in 1887 in Weobley (wife's name unknown), possible father of the five children born in Weobley between 1890 and 1898.
-William, born 1845, married Ellen Morris (who died in 1924), also possible parents of the five children.
I know there were Vickress cousins because one of them wanted to marry my gran's cousin Joan Morris, and she declined because at the time she was training to be a nurse, or some such story.
Can anyone confirm any of the above?
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cimbrio
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OK, now THIS is weird. Is Milbrow the name of a WOMAN?
This is what I found:
Marriages Mar 1887
Hollings John Weobly 6a 721
VICKRESS Milbrow Weobly 6a 721
If so then the children on the previous post are issue of >William Vickress and Ellen Morris...
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Spidermonkey
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I think it is more likely that there was a problem transcribing the marriages, because I think that Milborough is a man.
Looking on the monumental inscriptions website that I gave you on page 2 of this thread, I think that William and Ellen Vickress (nee Morris) are buried at Hope under Dinmore. Looks like William died in 1936 aged 78.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukhfhs/miuv.html
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Spidermonkey
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I stand corrected! Milboro' might well be a girls name! Look who I have just found on the 1901 census
1901 Herefordshire
Hope Coaling Hill, Hope under Dinmore
William Vickeress H Married 40 Carpenter bn Lyonshall, Heref
Ellen Vickeress W Married 45 bn Kinnersley
John VIckeress S 11 school boy bn Eardisland, Heref
Milboro' Vickeress D 9 school girl bn Eardisland
Ann Vickeress D 7 school girl bn Eardisland
Eleanor Vickeress D 5 school girl bn Eardisland
Frederick Vickeress S 3 bn Eardisland
Thomas R Vickeress S 2mnths bn Hope (presumably Hope under Dinmore), Heref
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Spidermonkey
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1891 Census Herefordshire
Pembridge
JOhn Hollings H Mar 35 Agricultural LAbourer bn Lyonshall, Heref
Milbrow Hollings W Mar 41 bn Staunton on Arrow, Heref
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Spidermonkey
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1861 Census Herefordshire
Upper Rise? Lyonshall
Frederick Vickress H M 45 Carpenter bn Heref. Hope under Dinmore
Ann Vickress W M 39 bn Heref. Pembridge
Elizabeth D 14 bn Heref. Pembridge
Milbrow D 12 bn Heref Pembridge
Diana D 9 bn Heref Lyonshall
William S 2 bn Heref Lyonshall
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Spidermonkey
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Ok, on the 1871 census there are 2 Milbro's!!!
One is Milbro Vicarage aged 22, a nursemaid born in Stanton Herefordshire, living at Upper House, Lyonshall.
The other is Milbrough Vickress aged 18, unmarried sister in law born in Hope Under Dinmore living with Mary Vickress aged 60, widow born Cleobury Mortimer, Shropshire. They are living in Marden, Herefordshire
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