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tj_
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What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« on: Friday 31 October 08 14:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

My paternal Grandfather was Wilfred Silver b. 27th November 1898 in Hartley Wintney. He was the son of James Silver b.1856 in Odiham.

Ancestry.co.uk says it's found him on RG13/1106 p.61. A search on Ancestry for his father James - the result was the previous page.

I've looked at all of the images for Winchfield (entire) and cannot find a single Silver.

Where should I go from here?

Tim

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Re: What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 October 08 14:23 UTC (UK) »

Try another day - sometimes the links mysteriously change.  Roll Eyes

In the meanwhile, I'll see what I can find...

added - I get the same error!  Roll Eyes

meles

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Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
Harrison: London; Pollock
Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
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Re: What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 October 08 14:28 UTC (UK) »

If Silver was a surname, it could be the father's mum or grandmother's maiden name. So it could be a lot further back than your grandfather's time. I don't know about your family, but mine travelled around the counties a lot- some generations circled the whole of England it seems. My advice would be to track James back as far as you can get him and just keep going- it seems Silver is a name in the family so probably it has significance somewhere. In the course of your research you may eventually have a Silver jump out at you.

I suppose it might be possible that one of your ancestors might have worked with silver and gave a child that middle name because of it? It's usually a surname though. Of course, it might have no relevance at all.

Keep persevering.
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Re: What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 October 08 14:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Very weird Huh  The reference given for the record Is RG13/1106/63 Pg 11 but it is linked to image for RG13/1106/61 Pg7 - will see if I can get to the other ref.


Jan Wink

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Re: What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 October 08 14:58 UTC (UK) »

My findings are the same as Jan.   The ref. for the father James is RG13 1106 62 10 but what comes up is RG13 1195 60 6 and clearly the large family is spread over 2 pages.   

I suggest you contact ancestry reporting this - tell them the correct references for James and Wilfred and then what pages actually come up.   They will never know it's wrong unless someone tells them.

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Re: What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 October 08 15:05 UTC (UK) »

Here's the family:


1901: RG13/1106/62/10
Railway Huts, Winchfield, Hartley Wintney


James Silver Head M 45 Ganger (?) L.S.W.Ry Hants Odiham
Ellen do Wife M 35 Hants Odiham
Ellen do Daur S 16 Hants Winchfield
James do Son 13 Hants Winchfield
Emily do Daur 11 Hants Winchfield
Arthur do Son 10 Hants Winchfield
Alice do Daur 8 Hants Winchfield
Alfred do Son 5 Hants Winchfield
Percy do Son 3 Hants Winchfield
Wilfred do Son 2 Hants Winchfield
Fred Bricker Visitor S 45 Engine driver Cambridge


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Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
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London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
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Re: What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 October 08 15:08 UTC (UK) »

It looks as thought the whole district is digitised wrong... Angry

I searched on another name on the page displayed and it appears to be 4 pages out.   So you would need to go forward 4 pages from the one they show you.  Unfortunately you run out of pages before you get to where you need to be.

Just in case you don't have it..here they are in 1891..   


Jas Silver   age 35
born abt 1856
Where born:    Odiham, Hampshire, England   
Address...near station, Winchfield, W
Occupation: servant (can't read it very well)

Jas Silver    age 35
Ellen Silver    age  28
Ellen Silver    age 6
Jas Silver    age 3
Emily Silver    age 1
Arthur Silver    age 5/12
RG12/956/55 P 3


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Re: What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 October 08 15:14 UTC (UK) »

James Silver Head M 45 Ganger (?) L.S.W.Ry Hants Odiham

Ganger is right. He would have been a foreman of the gang building/repairing the tracks.

Glad you have found the right census!  Smiley

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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk
Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
Harrison: London; Pollock
Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 October 08 17:28 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for all of your replies - I've reported it to Ancestry.

avm228

So where did you get that from? Presumably a different site - 1901censusonline.com?

Tim
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Re: What to do when Ancestry.co.uk doesn't deliver?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 31 October 08 17:32 UTC (UK) »

avm228

So where did you get that from? Presumably a different site - 1901censusonline.com?

Tim

No - findmypast (www.findmypast.com).  I'm all for having back-up sources!

Anna Smiley
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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