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Topic: 12th July and Orange Lodges - Help offered (Read 4876 times)
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akanex2
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St Patrick's was badly damaged in an air raid in 1941 and substantially rebuilt after the war - which is probably why the window looks different. Maybe you could find old pictures from before the war in a local library which would help confirm if this is in fact the right church.
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HistoryTeam
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Thank you for that valuable bit of information akanex2.
In the 1st instance I have emailed St Patrick's (Ballymacarrett Group of Churches) for information.
I'll let you know the outcome.
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HistoryTeam
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I have confirmed this morning that the photograph was taken at St Patrick's, Ballymacarrett.
The Minister kindly give me access to, what is now, an enclosed area at the rear of the church where the view of the church, including the window, shown in the photograph was clearly visible and remained unchanged.
Furthermore, an elderly lady I met at the church indicated that, to her knowledge, the Lodge(s) paraded up Templemore Avenue prior to the men leaving for service in WWI. This could "possibly" date the photograph to around 1914.
Thank you again fmni & akanex2 for your interest and help.
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bradbrend
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Hi fmni
Thank you for your offer. I am trying to find information on my grandfathers brother William Mullan (and any other siblings he may have had) The only information I can find of William is that he was born Galgorm Co Antrim 1872.
My grandfather Thomas Mullan dob18/7/1874 died 10/1/1944 and his 6 sons Hugh,William, Thomas,James, Adam & Henry were members of Cromkill (Co Antrim) LOL 543. I believe my grandfather was grandmaster for a time.
Thanking you
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Bo
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Hi fmni
It was mentioned in our family that my granda was an 'Orange Man' and I am keen to take up your offer to help. HIs name was Joseph Hamilton, Redcliffe Drive, and he died Feb 1959. I would be keen on any info and indeed if there is a possibility of getting a photo etc. I look forward to hearing from you. 
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gilesstacey
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Hello fmni
interesting offer of help about Lodges - my grandfather William John Sands was Master of No 12 LOL Bleary and I would like to find out more about that. His father in turn James Christopher Sands was involved in No 12 Lodge and I would like to find out whether he was also Master...
going even further back, I found out that a probable cousin to an ancestor of mine in the Lurgan area was Master in 1825 of Number 24 LOL, at that time, called Rose and Crown (part of Lord Lurgan's estate)...his name was William Capper....any information about him would also be really appreciated...thank you!!!!
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lightbulb
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Hello. Can you find any information on this Lodge. Springdale Purple Star LoL # 942 Clifton Street? Me my Uncle and Father belonged to this Lodge for Years. I did write to the Orange Order last Year but did not get any replay's back.
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stevenson
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I have lots of questions that I have asked from many lodges before but never have been able to get answers over the years
But at this moment.........I would like to know if there are list to whom were on number 1 lodge Tryone....
Steve
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fmni
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I have lots of questions that I have asked from many lodges before but never have been able to get answers over the years
But at this moment.........I would like to know if there are list to whom were on number 1 lodge Tryone....
Steve
Hi Steve,
There is no number 1 lodge in tyrone. There is Killyman District Number 1 in County Tyrone, but this is then made up of 18 lodges covering areas such as Coalisland, Dungannon, Newmills, Killyman, Tamnamore and Moygashel.
Sorry I can't be of more help here.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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fmni
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Hello. Can you find any information on this Lodge. Springdale Purple Star LoL # 942 Clifton Street? Me my Uncle and Father belonged to this Lodge for Years. I did write to the Orange Order last Year but did not get any replay's back.
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Springdale Purple Star are still going and are part of Clifton Street District No.4 - what in particular are you after?
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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fmni
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Hello fmni
interesting offer of help about Lodges - my grandfather William John Sands was Master of No 12 LOL Bleary and I would like to find out more about that. His father in turn James Christopher Sands was involved in No 12 Lodge and I would like to find out whether he was also Master...
going even further back, I found out that a probable cousin to an ancestor of mine in the Lurgan area was Master in 1825 of Number 24 LOL, at that time, called Rose and Crown (part of Lord Lurgan's estate)...his name was William Capper....any information about him would also be really appreciated...thank you!!!!
I will look into this for you, certainly LOL 12 are still going and remain part of Lurgan District - their full title is "Bleary Crimson Star" - will see what I can come up with. I don't have LOL 24 listed here as still being active, but I understand from Grand Lodge that it is so will ask about them too when I'm speaking to my friend from Lurgan District. Cheers.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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fmni
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Hi fmni It was mentioned in our family that my granda was an 'Orange Man' and I am keen to take up your offer to help. HIs name was Joseph Hamilton, Redcliffe Drive, and he died Feb 1959. I would be keen on any info and indeed if there is a possibility of getting a photo etc. I look forward to hearing from you.
The best way to try and find this man's lodge would be to have an exact date of death? Hopefully if he was an active lodge member, an obituary would have been placed in the local paper around that time. Given his address I would assume he was in a lodge within Ballymacarratt District but impossible to pinpoint which one.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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fmni
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Hi fmni
Thank you for your offer. I am trying to find information on my grandfathers brother William Mullan (and any other siblings he may have had) The only information I can find of William is that he was born Galgorm Co Antrim 1872.
My grandfather Thomas Mullan dob18/7/1874 died 10/1/1944 and his 6 sons Hugh,William, Thomas,James, Adam & Henry were members of Cromkill (Co Antrim) LOL 543. I believe my grandfather was grandmaster for a time.
Thanking you
Will try and look into this for you, LOL 543 Cromkill Occidental Star are still active.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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fmni
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Hi,
Can you look up a lodge in Co,Down?
I was told my Great Grandfather Richard Robinson was in Lower Iveagh True Blues LOL 70 in around 1890/1930s
Think its in Lower Iveagh west 8 Dis,
Also his Grandson Richard Robinson was in the same Lodge around 1940s.
And Could you find out who the first members where?
Many thanks
Kind Regards
David R
I can have a look into this for you, but don't know much about the lodge despite it being local to me. I note you have an interest in McFarland's from Derriaghy. I have two McFarlands - John and James is a 1934 photograph of Derriaghy LOL 135 - any relation?
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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