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Topic: 12th July and Orange Lodges - Help offered (Read 5002 times)
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fmni
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If anyone would like to avail of my Orange Order knowledge don't hesitate to get in touch with me. I a member of the Institution in the County Antrim area but have been researching the Orange Order for quite a while now (and indeed was employed as a researcher by the Grand Lodge of Ireland for a short while in 2007)
I have a number of contacts in different parts of Ireland relating to the Orange Order and would be happy to explore your own family's 'Orange roots'...
I am currently working on an archive for my own District and Lodge so would be happy to help you guys out if I can.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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kalasira
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hi just going trough different site,s as i am trying to find out about the dinsmore,and some one is searching for me,and then i came across your message,i would be very grateful if you could help me ,not that i have much information,my uncle used to be an orange man and i can remember every year we would go over to Belfast and stay with my uncle,s and auntie,s for about 3month,s and all the other Holiday,s one year there was a march and i was told only to watch but yes you have guessed i trotted of with them and got lost and the police had to bring me back,so that was the time i went of with them,any way,i don,t know what order or where it was,not much help am i,his name was Eddie dinsmore.and he lived at 42 everton street crumlin road Belfast 14 his date of birth was February 15 1908,when he died i was told i could have all his thing,s like his sash,e.t.c, i hope you can help me good luck,and thanks Jacquie. 
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iles,from kingswood bristol,gloucershire ,fudge,hawkins,crotty,powell,yates.,also kingswood,bristol.
fogg,from manchester,and hossock.from manchester.
dinsmore,devlin,larkin,patterson,McArthur,mahood,from belfast,antrim,.
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fmni
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Sort of a preliminary question kalasira - but you say that when he died you could have his sash/collarette.
Do you have this now then or know where it might be? There would be a number on it, e.g. L.O.L. ?? - if you find out that, I can fill you in on the lodge itself.
Just on another note - i though the name Eddie Dinsmore was familiar to me, I work part time as a football researcher - there is an "Eddie Dinsmore" still involved in local football in northern ireland with an amateur Belfast club called 'Sirocco Works' - quite a historic club and formed out of a famous factory - which sadly was levelled a while back. Do you know of your family having any connections with Sirocco?
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« Last Edit: Monday 03 November 08 14:35 UTC (UK) by fmni »
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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kalasira
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hi thank,s
no i don,t have anything as my uncle Eddie died year,s ago ,and i lost touch ,after my mum died his sister,then about a,year later i found out he had died,which tore me a part as i loved him to bit,s so i never got any as he was the last to die,or 2nd to last,the lodge could have been crumlin road cos they lived just of there on everton street,i don,t know about football,but i new he liked football,if this is any help he worked at Harland and wolfe, on the ship,s as a fitter i think,i am sorry i can,t help any more i have a cousin in larne i will try and get in touch with her and ask her ,i also have a cousin in Australia if he gets back to me this week i will ask him,i also have alot of paper cutting,s when different aunt,s and uncle,s died i will check them but that is all i can do,wish i could do more ,but with living he in manchester my mum did,nt like me to talk about it to any one.any will try my best.
thank,s Jacquie
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iles,from kingswood bristol,gloucershire ,fudge,hawkins,crotty,powell,yates.,also kingswood,bristol.
fogg,from manchester,and hossock.from manchester.
dinsmore,devlin,larkin,patterson,McArthur,mahood,from belfast,antrim,.
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fmni
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What date did your uncle die?
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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kalasira
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NOT MUCH HELP AM I ,EITHER THE END OF THE 80,S BEGINNING THE 90,S SORRY,I KNOW HE WAS LIVING AT 15 BALLYCRAIGY,GARDEN,S GLEN GORMLEY I THINK THAT IS CO,ANTRM NOT SURE,IN HIS FAMILY THERE WAS
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THERE WAS A COUSIN THAT DIED IN THE SWIMMING BATH,S ON THE DRUMLIN ROAD IT WAS IN THE PAPER,I DON,T KNOW ANY THING ELSE REALLY SORRY ,WILL GET BACK TO U LATER TO-DAY,
GOT THEY KEPT BUSY,
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« Last Edit: Sunday 02 November 08 21:31 UTC (UK) by Arranroots »
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iles,from kingswood bristol,gloucershire ,fudge,hawkins,crotty,powell,yates.,also kingswood,bristol.
fogg,from manchester,and hossock.from manchester.
dinsmore,devlin,larkin,patterson,McArthur,mahood,from belfast,antrim,.
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kalasira
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I GOT IT WRONG IT WAS,NT MY COUSIN THAT DIED IN THE SWIMMING BATH,S IT WAS MY UNCLE AND THE BATH,S WERE ON THE FALL,S ROAD,THE ONLY OTHER INFORMATION I FOUND WAS IN A PAPER CUTTING ABOUT MY NANA,THAT DIED,IT READ,S OFFICER,S AND MEMBERS OF THE WEST END BLUE SUPPORTER,S CLUB REGRET THE DEATH OF THE MOTHER OF THEIR HIGHLY ESTEEMED MEMBER JOHNSTON DINSMORE THIS ALL I HAVE.I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT THE LATE FIFTY,S WHEN HE WAS AN ORANGE MAN,SORRY CAN,T HELP I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT WHEN EDDIE DIED??
FROM JACQUIE,(WHAT WAS THE WEST END BLUE CLUB.) 
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iles,from kingswood bristol,gloucershire ,fudge,hawkins,crotty,powell,yates.,also kingswood,bristol.
fogg,from manchester,and hossock.from manchester.
dinsmore,devlin,larkin,patterson,McArthur,mahood,from belfast,antrim,.
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fmni
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That would be a Linfield FC Supporters Club based in Belfast.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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kalasira
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I HOPE YOU GOT MY LAST MESSAGE I FOUND A PAPER CLIPPING AND IT MENTIONED THE WEST END CLUB SUPPORTER,S CLUB,AND THE FAMILY CIRCLE ,DON,T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE.STILL TRYING TO FIND WHEN EDDIE DINSMORE DIED
THANKS JACQUIE.
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iles,from kingswood bristol,gloucershire ,fudge,hawkins,crotty,powell,yates.,also kingswood,bristol.
fogg,from manchester,and hossock.from manchester.
dinsmore,devlin,larkin,patterson,McArthur,mahood,from belfast,antrim,.
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aghadowey
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'Family circle' just refers to the wider family outside parents, siblings, children.
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Lostlizzie
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Hello fmni,
I would like to take up your kind offer also. I'm afraid I do not have the LOL's but have several family members who were in the Orange Order, they were
G.Uncle William Majury dob 9 Mar 1909 died 11 Jul 1993 lived in 17 Dublin St Belfast
G.G/father John Majury dob 4 Jul c1865 died 9 Jan 1952 lived at 36 North Howard Street Belfast
Uncle Tom Weir dob 12 Feb 1927 died 3 Jun 1993 lived at 2 Silverstream Gardens Belfast
Any help will be greatly appreciated, rregards lostlizzie
If anyone would like to avail of my Orange Order knowledge don't hesitate to get in touch with me. I a member of the Institution in the County Antrim area but have been researching the Orange Order for quite a while now (and indeed was employed as a researcher by the Grand Lodge of Ireland for a short while in 2007)
I have a number of contacts in different parts of Ireland relating to the Orange Order and would be happy to explore your own family's 'Orange roots'...
I am currently working on an archive for my own District and Lodge so would be happy to help you guys out if I can.
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Ulster: Sullivan, McMurtry, Campbell, McCullough, Majury,McAnally, Evans, Irvine
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fmni
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Lizzie, I have put a request in with another rootschatter who looks up Belfast Telegraph notices. If those family members you listed were still part of the Institution when they died, their own private lodge will have placed a death notice within the next couple of days regarding their Brother's death. Given that you're Great Uncle died on the 11th July as well, his death and events the following day in the lodge may still be fresh in the memory of any existing members.
The look-ups either way, should then give me the lodge number to work off regarding finding further information.
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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fmni
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Further to that, the guy (markinbelfast) has come back extremely quick with an answer...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,335759.30.html
Unfortunately there are no death notices relating to their membership of the Orange Order - although he has mentioned that there are plenty of other clubs and societies in the death notices section for your relatives - perhaps a PM to him might help you with a little more information from what he remembers reading today about them as individuals.
As for the Orange links - not finding a death notice is somewhat of a brickwall - it may be worth asking some more living relatives to elaborate if possible.
I did post up names there of a living person who is probably connected, but just realised I can't. Are you related to the chairman of Dundela FC, based in East Belfast?
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HILL - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: BANKS - Moira, Co. Down: ARMOUR - Lisburn, Co.Antrim: WALKER - Dromore, Co. Down: MAGEE - Lambeg, Co. Antrim: THOMPSON - Derriaghy/Magheragall, Co. Antrim: TITTERINGTON - Moira, Co. Down: McNEILL - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: SWAIN - Moira, Co. Down: IRVINE - LAMBEG, Co. Antrim: TURNBULL - Lurgan, Co. Armagh: CARLISLE - Lisburn, Co. Antrim: MORROW, Lisburn, Co. Antrim: FORSYTHE - Magheralave, Co. Antrim: MARTIN - Ballinderry, Co. Antrim: REILLY, Magheralin, Co. Down
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baza307
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I am searching for details of my G Grandfather , Matthew Cairns , who married a Mary Elizabeth Graham in Rasharkin around 1894 before coming to Scotland.
He was an Orangeman , but I don't know if he joined in Ulster or in Scotland.
Don't know if you can help , but thought I'd ask anyway.
All his stuff was passed onto my Mum's cousin(s) and we have lost contact with them
Sorry but that's all the info I can provide.
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