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bajwins
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Can any one help demolish a brick wall I have run into.
I have a Gt Grndfthr Alfred BOOT, {son of John (Land Surveyor) and Ann BOOT} born in Skegby in 1840. He appears on the 1841 Nottinghamshire census and the family apparently moved to Hucknall under Huthwaite in the mid 1840s but Alfred has disappeared in both the 1851 and 1861 censuses. Yet he must have been back in the area by 1870 because his son, Albert Eleazar BOOT is listed on the 1871 Derbyshire census as being born there. He married Martha Hill (1871 census lists her birthplace as Cheddington, Bucks)
Could Alfred have been away at school in 1851 (when he would be aged about 11) and if so has anyone any suggestions as to how I can find a list of possible schools.
However, to complicate matters there appear to be several Alfred BOOT's around at the time and I have a marriage of an Alfred Boot to a Martha Hill in Pinxton in 1866 (So far I have not managed to trace either Alfred or Martha on the 1851 census in any of the villages about Pinxton. Alfred's occupation is given as a draper in the Parish Register of the marriage so I am unsure whether this is a coincidental marriage by two people of the same names because a directory of Huthwaite, for a year when I am pretty sure our Alfred was already 50 miles away in Derbyshire as a colliery clerk, lists an Alfred Boot - Draper.
The marriage record gives Martha's father as Jesse HILL and is witnessed by John James Hill and Clementine Hill. John James and Clementine appear in Derby in the 1881 census, with family, and John James' birthplace is given as Cheddington, Bucks, which suggests perhaps that he is Martha's brother. He married Clementine Brentnall in 1865 (2nd quarter) in the registration district of Belper - but I can't trace that marriage in Belper itself.
I can't trace Martha, John James or Jesse in Buckinghamshire in 1851 (when Martha would be about 5 / 6) nor can I trace any sign of them in East Derbyshire villages. Jesse was listed as a 'clerk to the railway' on the Alfred / Martha marriage that I think is the right one but am not 100% sure about.
I hope there is something in that little lot which links in to other people's research which might knock a few holes in that brickwall I face.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
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Boot; Hill; Hopper; Ashmore;
Winslade; Gowman; Cliff
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Roy Whittaker
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Boots and Hills,
The John and Ann Boot you refer to are my great great grandparents (via Rose Ann Boot). I haven’t researched this family exhaustively, but the only reference I have seen to Rose Ann’s brother Alfred is in the 1841 census, so I have assumed that he died young. If so, he can’t be your Alfred. On the other hand, his christening his son Eleazar may be significant – John Boot’s father was Eleazar.
One avenue of attack would be to search for Alfred’s death between 1841 and 1851 – parish records of Skegby and Huthwaite, or 1837online.com.
Have you looked at huthwaite-online.net? This has an article on this Boot family and remarks on the disappearance of Alfred. It mentions the unreadable A….. D… in the 1851 census and wonders whether this was Alfred. In fact this was Andrew David who appears, for example, in the 1881 census.
None of the other names you mention register with me.
There are, as you say, other Alfred Boots about. There are also plenty of Hills – Rose Ann married William Hill. Sorry to be so negative! Good hunting!
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Hi,
I am also interested in the Boots of Nottingham. Mine go back to Quorndon, Leics. I am trying to find out there connection with John Boot of Radcliffe father of Jesse. I am supposed to be a distant relative of him.
Thanks
Louise
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Roy Whittaker
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Dear Tony,
It seems pretty certain from what you say that your great grandfather is the elusive Alfred, he of the 1841 census. According to my calculations, that makes us 3rd cousins. Not bad considering this is the first time either of us has used this website, I think!
Rose Ann had a daughter called Paulina (my grandmother) – a cousin to Alfred’s daughter Paulina (your grandmother?). How many Paulina cousins have there ever been, I wonder? I also had an uncle called Paulinus, so this is clearly a name to conjure with in this family. I do have evidence of John Boot being the surveyor for the Clifton colliery – and for many others in the Notts & Derby coalfield. My Paulina’s husband William Hill was born in Alfreton and the little I know of his antecedents indicates his was a Notts/Derby family.
I have a good deal of information I can send you, best done directly I think. Can you email me at Moderator comment - email address removed to avoid spamming - please contact using a personal message
Cousinly greetings!
Roy
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Roy Whittaker
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Hi Louise,
I don’t know of any Boots from Quorndon Leics, but I do know of Boots from Quarndon, Derby. Any chance that the names are mixed up?
Roy
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louise
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Thanks very much. my email is Moderator comment - email address removed to avoid spamming - please contact using a personal message
Louise
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