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Tephra
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Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« on: Tuesday 04 November 08 13:18 UTC (UK) »

Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt and this is a really interesting one........I'm sure you'll find it to be a real challenge.......but interesting.

Good Luck and Good Hunting.

Barbara

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  On  8th jan 1913 at Thye reg office Cheltenham  Nellie Davis  (father James Davis genral hawker) married Nipton Hurn genral dealer (father John Hurn farm labourer) they were both single, the witnesses were Isaac Hurn and Lily Hurn. my m in l has a photo of Nipton and his sister Lily May writen on the back it says that there name was Royals. The family story is that they changed their name due to a family fall out..

   I have what I'm sure is the family in the 1901 census  RG13; Piece: 2469; Folio: 26; Page: 8.
      Adolphus Ryals 19 
      Caleb Ryals 14 
       Isaac Ryals 7 
        John Ryals 44 
       Lily May Ryals 5 
       Tipton Ryals 16  (nipton)
       Yryfinia Ryals 45 

and again in 1891  RG12; Piece: 2041; Folio 104; Page 21

    Ada Riles 14 
   Caleb Riles 4 
    Halford Riles 10 
    John Riles 36 
    Nephine Riles 6   (Nipton)
    Sciante Riles 38 

I've never found a birth marriage or death for any of the family apart from Niptons marriage and death.   There is a possiblity that the mothers  maiden name was Hurn/ Hearne and this is why they took this name.  if so Scanti/Tryinia may be  Triente Hurn/Hearne who "married" John Ryalls/Riles/Royals, daughter of Edmund and Jemima Hurn/ Hearn.  this is them in 1871   RG10; Piece: 2607; Folio: 28; Page: 12

     Brinte Herne 18  (Triente)
    Edmund Herne 50 
    Elizabeth Herne 21 
    Jennina Herne 55 
    Mary M Herne 12 
   Urania Herne 16  (lurena)
   Alice Smith 35 
   Madonna Smith 16 
   Stephen Smith 11 
Trientes sister Lurena was said to of "married " Walter Ryalls/Riles/Royals brother to John.

  I hope all this makes sense. Would love to find out anything on the other siblings or parents of Nipton  and what happened to them all or some "proof" that it is all the same family. thanks in advance for any help you can give me
                  Matilda

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Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 13:20 UTC (UK) »
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 13:37 UTC (UK) »



Never mind the 'Hello's'  get to work............solve the puzzle         Grin Grin

I thought you'd be the first here..........where's Lesanne, she's usually posting at the same time you are....    Wink
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 13:52 UTC (UK) »
I'm bookmarking to read later when I get home, but as usual by that time Toni and crew will have answered everything anyway  Grin Roll Eyes Wink

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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 13:58 UTC (UK) »
Hi  cous Matilda

I'm here too  Grin
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 14:00 UTC (UK) »



I think there's going to be more to find Kerry.........they'll save something for you I'm sure!!!

Hi Deb    Smiley
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Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.
Abbott In Islington
Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden
Lamb In Bolton and Ireland
Grundy In Bolton
Blackledge In Bolton
Osbaldeston  ?? ??
Barnett in Islington
Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 14:00 UTC (UK) »
Just updating Deb's tree and watching the paint dry.......... Grin
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 14:11 UTC (UK) »
To flesh out the info we already have:

1891 Census: Prestbury, Gloucestershire
Gypsy Caravan
John Riles  H  M  36  Pegmaker  Gloucs. Cranham
Sciante Riles  W  M  38  Hawker  ?  Peterboro
Ada Riles  D  14  Herefordshire, Hereford
Dalford Riles  S  10  Herefordshire, Camproom
Neptune Riles  S6  Gloucs. Prestbury
Caleb Riles  S  4  Gloucs. Staveson
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 14:18 UTC (UK) »
There is a Caleb Charles Byles bn June qtr 1888 Cheltenham (would cover Staverton) 6a 416.  I wonder if a heavy accent could change Riles to Byles?
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 14:25 UTC (UK) »



Could be a mistranscription Spider          Roll Eyes
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Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.
Abbott In Islington
Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden
Lamb In Bolton and Ireland
Grundy In Bolton
Blackledge In Bolton
Osbaldeston  ?? ??
Barnett in Islington
Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 14:33 UTC (UK) »
Could be Teph.

I think Mrs Ryals name is actually Tryphinia on the 1901.

Elmstone Hardwick, Gloucestershire
Gypsies in van and tents
John Ryals  H  44  Gypsy  Crantham?  Gloucs
Tryphinia Ryals  W  45  Peterborough, Nottinghamshire
Adolphus Ryals  S  19  Golden Valley [Herefordshire]
Niptun Ryals  S  16  Chelthenham
Caleb Ryals  S  14  Golden Valley
Isaac Ryals S  7  ?Swindon
Lily May Ryals  D  5  Churchdown, Glos
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 14:56 UTC (UK) »
I wonder if Sciante and Tryphenia are the same person ... I thought that the 1901 POB looked like Northamptonshire (tryphenia) and the 1891 looked like Lincs for Sciante.
Also there is a 7 year gap between Caleb 14 and Isaac 7 on the 1901 census .

deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 15:14 UTC (UK) »
hmmmmm,

Adolphus William Rowles bn Henley sept qtr 1880 3a 672   

Not quite Golden Valley though

Death ref: Tendring 1904 jun 1/4  4a 319
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 15:35 UTC (UK) »
hi all,
           sorry wasnt here for the begining, had work then midwife, but in for the night now. let me know if theres anything that needs making more clear
              thanx Matilda  Wink
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travellers: Penfold, Holland, Orchard, Loveridge, saunders, James, Davis
Somerset/devon: Hawkins, Lane, Perryman, Saffin, Bowden, Warren
Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster, Gleadell, Gott, Patrick, Milnes, Beverley
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Re: Matilda1973 Scavenger Hunt.....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 15:44 UTC (UK) »
Matilda's suggestion for the Hearns in 1871:
Newent, Gloucs.
Taken on the road, slept in Parish
Edmund Herne  H  M  50  Gypsy  Northampton Easton
Jemima Herne  W  55  ?Stenphton Leicestershire
Alice Smith  Step dau  35  Nothampton Rusnity?  (Have no knowledge of Northampton, so can't guess!)
Ziphenth Herne  S  21  Northampton  Ringstead
Triente Herne  D  18  Lincoln Peterboro
Urania Herne  D  16  Lincoln Market Deeping
Mansell Herne S  12  Northampton Welford
Madonna Smith Gdau  16  Northampton Lutton
Stephen Smith Gson  11  Cambridge Ely

Not sure with these names Wink so if anyone else wants to try please feel free!
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