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Topic: James Wilson, Battersea (Read 1035 times)
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moogester
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I wonder can anyone help me? My great grandmother Mabel Sophie Fanny Wilson, came from a fairground family, I have found mention of her and her family on the 1901 census when they were living in Gurlings Yard in Battersea. She married Frank Fisher in Battersea in 1908, I don't think he was a traveller. I have her brother's name Charles Wilson (who nobody in the family can remember) and her mother's Christian name Sarah, but no maiden name. I know there is no birth certificate for Mabel as there was confusion when her 100th birthday was (she lived to be 103). She told me when I was a child, her mother used to swing weights attached to her long hair around her head and it eventually crippled her, I've also been told she was a money lender for women. I have an old photo of James and Sarah, which shows him wearing a sash which says 'Pride of Battersea'. Frank Fisher died in 1927, Mabel struck up a relationship with Thomas Penfold which resulted in a child being born. Considering she came from a travelling family, once she married she lived her whole life within a mile of Gurlings yard!
I am completely stuck on this branch of the family and am hoping someone knows something!
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CaroleW
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Hi
16yr old Thomas Penfold was also living at Gurlings Yard in 1901. He was the son of Christopher & Patience.
There are also 2 other Penfold families in Gurlings Yard - Robert & Mary and James & Mary Ann. On earlier pages - Gurlings Yard is described as "caravans and barns"
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moogester
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Blimey that was quick!  I saw the Penfold entries and guessed Thomas Penfold was my gran's Thomas.
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CaroleW
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This is the family in 1891 in Islington Highbury transcribed as Wilton and Willson
James Wilson 45 hawker birthplace n/k
Sarah 40 birthplace n/k
James 12 b Whitechapel
Charles 6 b Brentford M'sex
Mabel 3 months b Holloway London
Angelina Anthony 9 nurse child b Notting Hill
RG12 piece 178 folio 56 page 36
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moogester
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Thanks so much for that, I've been looking for weeks and getting nowhere. 
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moogester
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Hi, I've found some more information about my Wilson family since I posted this thread. I found the family on the:
1861 census in Farnham RG9 piece 515 folio 71 page 9
and the 1871 census in Willesborough in Kent RG10 piece 817 folio 67 page 24
I am interested to know about Mabel Sophie Fanny Wilson's brothers, James and Charles. She lived to be 102 and nobody can remember her ever speaking about her brothers 
I've attached photos of James and Sarah, their parents.
I spoke to my Mother about Thomas Penfold, she was born in Battersea in the 1930's and said there were many families of Penfolds in that area, which could make it difficult!
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moogester
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Thanks for that, the gaps are starting to be filled
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RomanyRoser
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Hi There- Maybe you are a long lost rellie of mine. My Great Great Granma (Dianah/Dinah Wilson married William Roser. They travelled around Kent & Sussex that I know of. I found them living on East Grinstead Common in Sussex in 1841 with their children to that stage of their marriage. Their son "John"who was with them must have died prior to August 1842 because he was not on the shipping list when they all arrived in Western Australia in 1842. I have tried and tried to get help with my family but so far nothing to speak off. If you could send me any Wilson info I would appreciate it. You may have allready found the links and if you haven't 2 heads are better than one- RomanyRoser
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moogester
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Hi, sorry it's taken me so long to reply, blame a dose of the flu and Christmas 
I'm not sure we have the same Wilsons but I'll give you the info I have found and you can see if any of it matches yours
1861 census Class: RG9; Piece: 515; Folio: 71; Page: 9; GSU roll: 542653, East Ashford, Brabourne, Kent:
James Wilson, 57, an earthenware dealer, born Oldham, Yorks
Jane (wife), 57, born Kirby, Yorks
John (son), 24, an earthenware dealer, born North Sunderland
Kitten (or Hilton) (daughter in law), born Surrey
William (son), 19, born Cambs.
James (son) 17, born Mansfield, Notts
Jeremiah (son), 9, born Newark, Kent
Jenny (daughter), 7, born Lincoln
William (grandson), 6, born Wye, Kent
Jane (grandaughter), 2, born Berfield, Kent
James (grandson), 3 months, born Canterbury, Kent
1871 census Class: RG10; Piece: 817; Folio: 67; Page: 24; Aldershot, Hampshire, Farnham, Frimley (address noted as "107 Lower Farnham Road, 'these people appear to be travelling from place to place, making this a kind of rendezvous!')
James (head), 65, Oldham, Yorks. Hawker
Jane (wife), 63, Kirby, Merseyside
William (son), 24, Cambridgeshire
Mary (daughter in law), 19, Lincolnshire, somewhere!!!!
Thomas (grandson), 7, Kent
Mary A (grandaughter), 1, Sussex
Hope this helps
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RomanyRoser
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Thanks so much- Are they Romany-Roser
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