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Topic: McDonald - Urquhart & Glenmoriston (Read 1888 times)
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anndra
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Looking for Peter McDonald, farmer/crofter b.c. 1790, Urquhart & Glenmoriston area. m. Isabella Muir b. 1791 Dores. 5 sons and one daughter. Eldest son Duncan b.1815 Glenmoriston, blacksmith and carpenter with several employees and apprentices.
Have timelined all McDonalds in U&G on OPR (almost 1000!) but can't find any family groups that would point me in the right direction.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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Black,Hutton,Lyle,Ayrshire; Dickson,Berwickshire; Haig,Leitch,Clazy,Harle,Berwickshire/Roxburghshire; Low/Lowe,McLagan,Millar,Mclauchlan,Stewart,Douglass, Perthshire; MacKenzie,McAngus,McRae,Skinner,Vass,Ross-shire; McDonald,Duff,Muir, Inverness-shire; Raff,Thomson,Riach, Moray; Shiels,Monteith, East/Midlothian; Meiklejohn,Turcan,Cumming,Nasmyth,Donald, Fife.
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Gruemach
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Anndra,
Go to this website and find the censuses. (http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~sm00dmd/)
There are censuses from 1841 to 1901 there. (http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~sm00dmd/)
Your Peter is there as I have the complete censuses for Invermoriston and area from 1841 on in my system from that web site.
You may come across stories about people, namely Willack and Jeannack, who are two of the four children of my great-great-aunt who married Alexander MacDonald, the Smitty there in 1890 and had four children - Willack (Willie), Jeannack (Jeannie), Jessie and Duncan who lived in the Smitty on the A82 next to the General Wade Bridge all of their lives and never married.
Let me know if you have any difficulty.
Gruemach
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anndra
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Thanks Gruemach
I have reviewed this website before and cannot find Peter. He must have died before 1841.
His wife Isabella is there (33 Achnanconeran) living with Archibald, her son who is recorded as Tenant. The entry is:-
archibald mcdonald 20 tenant (17)
isabella mcdonald 15 (49) (This is wrong and reads 45 on the OPR ms)
jane mcdonald 20 (21)
james mcdonald 15 joiner's apprentice (Working for his eldest brother, Duncan)
peter mcdonald 15 (16)
alex mcdonald 14
Actual age in brackets if different
Anndra
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Black,Hutton,Lyle,Ayrshire; Dickson,Berwickshire; Haig,Leitch,Clazy,Harle,Berwickshire/Roxburghshire; Low/Lowe,McLagan,Millar,Mclauchlan,Stewart,Douglass, Perthshire; MacKenzie,McAngus,McRae,Skinner,Vass,Ross-shire; McDonald,Duff,Muir, Inverness-shire; Raff,Thomson,Riach, Moray; Shiels,Monteith, East/Midlothian; Meiklejohn,Turcan,Cumming,Nasmyth,Donald, Fife.
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Gruemach
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Anndra,
Have you checked the records for the local graveyards for Peter or others?
Graham
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anndra
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Thanks Graham.
I obviously have all of the SR deaths but haven't much pre this.
Anyone have a good link for MI in the area?
Anndra
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Black,Hutton,Lyle,Ayrshire; Dickson,Berwickshire; Haig,Leitch,Clazy,Harle,Berwickshire/Roxburghshire; Low/Lowe,McLagan,Millar,Mclauchlan,Stewart,Douglass, Perthshire; MacKenzie,McAngus,McRae,Skinner,Vass,Ross-shire; McDonald,Duff,Muir, Inverness-shire; Raff,Thomson,Riach, Moray; Shiels,Monteith, East/Midlothian; Meiklejohn,Turcan,Cumming,Nasmyth,Donald, Fife.
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Gruemach
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Anndra,
Nothing that I know of that is as extensive as with Sutherland...or what used to be for Sutherland. Keeping special interest websites going is a costly affair.
The best source for MIs is the Genealogy Department at the Inverness Library.
Genealogist Alistair MacLeod or his assistant Anne Fraser might be able to help you with a single inquiry. And you might with to try the Highland Family History Society in Inverness. Their Secretary takes in enquiries and tries her best to help out.
Once you are past a preliminary question to Alistair or Anne, you might have to pay someone. There is a small cemetery that I have visited at the junction of the A82 and the A887 in Invermoriston.
Here's a complete list in the Highlands.
Inverness AREA NAME ..........ADDRESS
Ardersier Cemetery ...........The East Church, Ardersier IV1
Auchterawe Cemetery ..........Fort Augustus PH32
Boleskin Cemetery ............Foyers IV1
Breaklish Cemetery ...........Dalcross, Ardersier IV1
Cannich Cemetery .............Cannich IV4
Chapel Yard ..................Chapel Street, Inverness IV1
Corriemony Cemetery ..........Balnain IV3
Croy Cemetery ................Adj. To Croy & Dalcross
........................................Church,A96, Croy IV1
Dalarossie Cemetery ..........Tomatin IV13
Dalchreichart Cemetery .......Invermoriston IV3 6YA
Daviot Cemetery ..............Daviot IV1 2EP
Dores Cemetery ...............Either side of Dores Parish
...........................................Church, Dores IV1
Driumtemple Cemetery .........Foyers IV1
Dunlichity Cemetery ..........Dunlichity
Eskedale Cemetery ............Kiltarlity IV4
Fort Augustus Cemetery........Jenkins Park,Fort William
.....................................Road,Fort Augustus PH32
Foyers Cemetery ..............Foyers IV1
Glenconvinth Cemetery ........Foxhole, Kiltarlity IV4
Greyfriars Cemetery ..........Friars Street, Inverness
Invermoriston Cemetery .......A82 Road,Invermoriston IV3 6YA
Kilchuimen Cemetery ..........Fort Augustus PH32
Kilmorack Cemetery ...........Kilmorack
Kilvean Cemetery .............Kilvean, Inverness
Kirkhill Cemetery ............Wardlaw Road, Kirkhill IV5
Kirkton Cemetery .............Bunchrew, Inverness
Kirkton Cemetery .............Ardersier, IV1
Lochend Cemetery .............Lochend IV3
Moy Cemetery .................Moy IV13 7YE
New Kilmore Cemetery .........Drumnadrochit IV3
Old High Church Yard .........Inverness
Old Kilmorack Cemetery .......Kilmorack
Old Kiltarlity Cemetery ......Kiltarlity IV4
Petty East Cemetery ..........Tornagrain, Inverness-shire
Petty West Cemetery ..........Dalcross, Ardersier IV1
St. Mary's Cemetery ..........Beauly IV4
Struy Cemetery ...............Struy IV4
Tomnacross Cemetery ..........Kiltarlity IV4
Tomnahurich Cemetery .........Glenurquhart Rd,Inverness IV3
I've given you the entire list as although the Macdonalds show up in several censuses, some of the family moved away from their family's original home.
Plus, you need detailed maps to understand where these places are.
Again, the Genealogy Department should be able to help you as well as the Archives, which is across the hall from the Reference Library and Genealogy Department.
Keep us posted on your successes or difficulties.
Cheers,
Gruemach
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anndra
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Many thanks for this Gruemack, much appreciated.
I'll see what I can find from the various source.
Anndra
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Gruemach
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Best of luck, Anndra.
You might have to hire someone to do some research once you get some direction from Alistair and/or Anne at the Inverness Library Genealogy Department.
Gruemach
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bigmac1x
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Hi Anndra,
I was fascinated by your comment about how you've timelined McDonalds from U&G. This conversation seems to focus on the McDonalds from the Invermoriston area. Mine are from Lewiston/Drumnadrochit (just up the Loch). I haven't found any connections between the two groups - yet. I suppose they're all related back there somewhere. Would be interested in seeing your timeline chart. Is it available online? I'm at a brick wall in Lewiston and looking for any possible leads/hints.
Stephen MacDonald, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, bigmac1x at sympatico dot ca
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bigmac1x
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Hi again Anndra,
I probably should have mentioned my McDonalds. Malco(l)m Mcdonald married his second wife Mary McKenzie in Lewiston in 1820 had a Son, Murdo Mcdonald in 1821 and another Son (pretty sure) William Hughin(?) Mcdonald in 1825. Have no idea where Malcolm and Mary were from or who their Parents were. Murdo moved to the Black Isle and married Chrisitan Urquhart in 1846 and raised a family in Cullicudden. William Hughin (?) I have no idea what happened to him.
Any help with Malcolm, Mary or William (or Malcolm's frist Wife, and kids), would be appreciated.
Stephen in Toronto
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anndra
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The McDonalds of U&G didn't seem to mix much with the McDonalds of Lewiston/Drumnacdrochit, or even the MCDonnells of U&G for that matter!
Have sent you an e-mail with the timeline so keep an eye out for it in case your spam filter bins it.
Good luck.
Anndra
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RSMACL
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I also am very interested in any information you might have on the
Malco(l)m McDonald born Glen Urquhart, who married Mary McKenzie in Lewiston, Glen Urquhart, as a WIDOWER in 1820....mentioned in message from Stephen MacDonald (who is my husband's second cousin once removed). You mentioned to him, that you were sending an email to him, giving timeline, etc. Was this sent offline as I couldn't see it., and I don't think he has received it, as of today's date; Stephen and I are in continuous contact.
We know of two of their children, Murdoch McDonald, b.1820-1, Glen Urquhart, and William Hughin McDonald b. 1825, Petty.
Ruth MacLeod, in Australia
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Donald the Pier
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Hullo Anndra
Peter MacDonald was my great great great grandfather and was from Invermoriston (I'm from Invermoriston myself). I found out from an old letter that his father's name was Archibald. I know quite a lot about his son Donald MacDonald, my great great grandfather.
Here are Donald MacDonald's gravestone details.
Erected to the memory of Mary Gray who departed this life on the 5th March 1831 aged 60 years. The beloved wife of Donald MacDonald carpenter, Glenmoriston. Also of the said Donald MacDonald who died 28th November 1867 aged 82 years. She is not dead but sleepeth. Matthew ix 24 verse.
And his household details from the 1851 census
Schedule 26
donald mcdonald head married 34 carrier urquhart
mary mcdonald wife married 31 urquhart
ann mcdonald daughter 4 scholar urquhart
peter mcdonald son 1 urquhart
christy gary servant unmarried 34 house servant urquhart26
I've attached Archibald's family tree. Have a look at my website for more info (www.glenmoriston.org.uk) which has got census and cemetery data or get in touch with me at sm00dmd at uhi dot ac dot uk.
Donald MacDonald
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bigmac1x
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Hi Donald,
Thanks for the background. I've never been able to find any connection between my Mcdonalds in Lewiston and yours in Invermoriston - and it's only 10 miles away! There's probably something but I'll bet it's many generations earlier than I've been able to get back to which is Malcom (Malcolm) who married Mary McKenzie in Lewiston in 1820 and had 2 kids there. Haven't been able to find either of their birth records so have no idea if born there or migrated from somewhere else. Don't even know if Malcom had siblings in the area.
One question for you (or anyone else who might know) - Malcom and Mary's second Son was named William Hughin Mcdonald b.1825. This is the first time I've come across a name like Hughin. Any ideas as to whether they were just being creative with Hugh or maybe Hughin was a surname of an ancestor? His birth record is attached. Strange - Mary's first name is missing (although they left a space for it).
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