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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 09 November 08 17:52 GMT (UK) »

Hi

i think this may be richard Westlake and his family in 1851 ...the age and occupation def fits

1851
Charles the Martyr, Plymouth
3 James st
John Westlake head mar 61 shipwright b Cornwall St budeaux
Elizabeth wife 60 b stoke damerel
Mary dau unm 29 dressmakerr b Stoke damerel
Ann dau 26 unm dress maker b Stoke damerel
RICHARD son unm 29 accountant born Beominster, Somerset...could this be Bedminster?

1841... I think this may be them
St Andrew
richmond lane
John Westlake 50 shipwright
Elizabth  50
mary 19
Ann 16
Charles 14
RICHARD 9
Ann Pittall 24 or 21

there is an IGI submitted entry which states
Richard Westlake s/o john Westlake and elizabeth
chr circa 1832 Bedminster somerset

Possible marriage
IGI extracted record
John Westlake = elizabeth GEORGE
31 Dec 1828
Stoke Damerel...maybe not too late as Mary bc 1822  Undecided

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 09 November 08 18:22 GMT (UK) »

re Mary Ann Hodge nee Mackey b 1809 ...sister of Charlotte Sampson

we have her in 1841 as Mary Ann Mackey ..licensed victualler
Thought you may like to know the name of her pub! Smiley

1861
Cornwall st, St Andrew
New Market Inn
Mary Ann Hodge head wid Inn Keeper b Plymouth
John M Hodge son 13 b Plymouth
Caroline Palmer head wid 50 Inn Keeper b Plymouth
Mary Louisa Palmer dau unm 18 b Plymouth
+ a boarder, lodgers and servants

Love the way the sisters stay together Smiley

1851
23 Cornwall street
Mary A hodge head wid 42 Inn keeper
Caroline Palmer head wid 40 Inn Keeper ..seems they ran the Inn together
JAMES MACKEY Brother unm 44 Merchant b Plymouth ...woohooo another sibling!!!!
Maria L Palmer dau 8
John M Hodge son 3
+ Barmaid/visitor/boarders/Lodgers

wonder what happened to the husbands ?

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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 09 November 08 18:26 GMT (UK) »

I have  westlake family from Collumpton in the 1840s
(henry Westlake born Collumpton devon 1843)
Henry's parents were George Westlake and Elizabeth Rowland - they were married in Exeter in the December Quarter in 1838.
Henry later moved to Plymouth and was married in 1873 to Mary Jane Bickham (born ashburton, devon 1852).

Henry and Mary Jane had the following children all born in Plymouth.

Ellen  1876
Walter  1879
Celia  1878
Harry ??
Edith ??

The 1881 census was very useful.
Piece / Folio   2196 / 29
 Page Number   53

Mary Jane Bickham's sister Ellen Bickham was my maternal great grandmother

I dont know if this helps you, or adds to your family or even if they are connected. I would be interested to know if there is a connection.
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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 09 November 08 18:32 GMT (UK) »

Just found this interesting family in 1861
Stoke Damerel
The Barnstaple Inn
Princess St
Richard MacKey head mar 53 Victualler b Devon
with wife and many kids ...

wonder if he is another sibling?

deb

Hi Burrow Digger Smiley ... not sure if they are related ... will keep an eye out for a connection ...deb
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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 09 November 08 19:29 GMT (UK) »

Hi

have been looking around on National Archives and found this ;

Licence of JOHN MACKEY HODGE as assistant curate at Crabtree Mission Chapel
ref # 1169/4
Date 1887

held at Plymouth and West Devon Records office

1881
Charles , plymouth
38 Tavistock Place
John M Hodge head mar 33 curate St Andrews Chapel b plymouth
Janny wife 31 b Exeter
Isaac L son 2
William L 1
John M son 1 month
children b plymouth

1891
address same as above
John Mackey Hodge mar Chaplin of Cemetery/ clergy/Curate of Egg Buckland
Jenny wife 41
Genevra dau 13
Isaac Lang son 12
William Lang son 11
John macKey son 10
Arminel mary dau 8
Henry Parnell son 3
Frances Miriam dau 10months
Annie Lang sis-in-law 20 living on her own meansb exeter
John Palmer Hogan Cousin 10 b Plymouth
+ Child's Maid, House maid and Cook
 Shocked

1901 same address as above
John M Hodge head mar 53 Priest (Church of England) and schoolmaster/Clergy b Plymouth
Jenny wife 51 b exeter
Isaac L son 22 University graduate (unemployed)
William L son 21 medical student
Arminel  M dau single18 university student
Dorothy s dau 16  University student
Henry P son 13
Andrew B son 8

wow   Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 09 November 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »

Hi again

just found this in Pigot's directory - 1822-23 edition:

Mary MacKay New Market Inn  15 Cornwall Street

so she had been running the inn for quite a while  Grin


ooo another find ..
The directory : Thomas's  Plymouth Director 1836
MacKey, the misses, victuallers, new market Inn, Cornwall street.
MacKey , Mrs , Cobourg Place ...now who did we find at Coburgh pl? 

also
General directory, Plymouth 1814
MacKay, J Three Crowns Inn, Parade plymouth 1814


another Smiley
Plymouth Professions and residences 1847
MacKay and Palmer, Mary Ann and caroline, Vict. 'New Market Inn" 23 Cornwall street

wow

In 1888
Plymouth, Devonport and Stonehouse
Private  Residential and Commercial directory
Hodge, Rev. John M Curate St Andrews Chapel, 38 tavistock Pl

Rev J Hodge is also in the 1906 directory at the same address!!!


deb Smiley
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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 09 November 08 22:11 GMT (UK) »

Going back to Charlotte Sampson nee Mackey b c 1803 Plymouth/St Andrew... this is Mary Mackey sampson = Richard Westlake, her mother...


1841
At Andrew
Flora Place  in Union Street
Nichs Sampson 45 Independent
Charlotte Sampson 35 "
Nichs Sampson 5

.... in 1841 Mary MacKey Sampson, 14 is with her aunts Mary Ann and Caroline the victuallers of the New Market Inn  Grin



okay this must be the right parents as I see this on IGI
Nicholas MacKey Sampson chr; 3 Feb 1835 Alverstoke, Hampshire
parents;
Nicholas Sampson and Charlotte

In 1851 Nicholas Sampson , 18, is a Dispensary Chemist assistant in Walcot Somerset

This may be Nicholas Sampson snr's death;
Nicholas Sampson June q 1847 Stoke damerel
vol 9 p 279

this is such an interesting family ... I am now wondering if George Frederick westlake bc 1866 Plymouth is not the Chemist I found in London ...will look again

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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 09 November 08 23:13 GMT (UK) »

so ...just a little Summary on the MacKey children;

Mary Ann MacKey b 1809 = John Hodge in 1846
Child ;
John MacKey Hodge b 1848 Plymouth ..becomes the Reverend marries Jenny Lang ...has children LOL

Caroline MacKey b 1811 Plymouth = Thomas Palmer in 1841
Child;
Mary Louisa Palmer 1843 Plymouth = Charles henry Hogan in 1873 Plymouth In 1881 he has private income mostly from shares  Shocked  children: John P b 1880 (he is with Rev John Hodge in 1891 as the cousin)

Charlotte MacKey b 1803 = Nicholas Sampson..can't find their marriage Undecided
children:
Mary MacKey Sampson 1827/8 Plymouth = Richard westlake
Nicholas Mackey Sampson b 1835 hampshire = Chemist

James MacKey b 1806 need to search him out !


re Richard Westlake b 1832 (= Mary MacKey Sampson)
his parents = John and Elizabeth
his siblings=
Mary 1822
Ann 1825
Charles 1827

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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #23 on: Monday 10 November 08 00:43 GMT (UK) »

OMG ..I realise I have been going off on a tangent LOL  Grin

BTW ...Dave ... what are the details of who you come from ..I am assuming it's Richard Jacob Westlake .

deb Smiley

PS... wake up !!!  Grin
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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #24 on: Monday 10 November 08 03:03 GMT (UK) »

Hi Deb Smiley Wink

Got to love the time zone differences. This is what i've got

John Westlake born abt 1790 in St.Budeaux Cornwall married Elizabeth ?? she born abt 1791 Stoke Damerel Devon. John was a Shipwright. Children are Richard Westlake Born abt 1832 Bedminster Somerset Huh - an Accountant. Mary Westlake abt 1822 Plymouth dressmaker & Ann Westlake abt 1825 Plymouth.
Richard married Mary Mackey Sampson June q 1853 Plymouth - don't know where or when he died.. She born abt 1827 in Romford Essex & died abt 1909 in Romford. Children - Mary Mackey Sampson Westlake March q 1857 in Plymouth (m) James Ruglew Myers June q 1893 in Medway. Richard Jacob Westlake abt june q 1861 (d) march q 1916 Plymouth. John Harold Sampson Westlake abt june q 1864 Plymouth & George Frederick Westlake march q 1866 - listed as a bookbinder in 1881.

Richard Jacob & Mary Rosina Hammett (b) 1863 in Little Torrington, Devon. (m) march q 1916 in Plymouth. Children Richard Edward Sept q 1883 Wandsworth London, John Harold June q 1885 Plymouth. Ethel Mary Sept q 1890 Plymouth, Charles James Dec q 1893 Plymouth, Gertrude May 11 may 1896 Plymouth - my Grandmother , & Lillian Maud Dec q 1899 Plymouth. 

I have Richard Edwards, John Harolds, Ethel Mary, Charles James & obviously Gertrude May's marriage partners & subsequent children. all but Lilliam Maud's.

Haven't put your info into the tree yet - i think the tree has grown somewhat....

Best wishes Dave from the land of Oz
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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #25 on: Monday 10 November 08 13:06 GMT (UK) »

Hi dave

I see that Richard and Mary MacKey Westlake are still together in 1891... I cannot find them in 1901 ..i think this may be Richards death;

Richard westlake b abt 1833 died june q 1898
Plymouth devon
vol5b p 139

I am a bit confused as you say Mary macKey S Westlake was born Romford Essex .... I see that she died there but she def. states all through her life that she was born Plymouth.

There is a May Westlake b 1828, Plymouth and a widow in 1901...she is a boarder at the Glanville home.

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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #26 on: Monday 10 November 08 13:14 GMT (UK) »

re Lillian Maud Westlake

There is this marriage;
Lilian M Westlake = Jack R Rundle
june q 1927
plymouth devon
vol 5b p 580

deb Smiley

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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 11:00 GMT (UK) »

Hi Deb Cheesy

You're right about Plymouth instead of Romford - i typed the wrong line -- oops!!

Cheers   Dave
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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 06:22 BST (UK) »

Hi

have been looking around on National Archives and found this ;

Licence of JOHN MACKEY HODGE as assistant curate at Crabtree Mission Chapel
ref # 1169/4
Date 1887

held at Plymouth and West Devon Records office

1881
Charles , plymouth
38 Tavistock Place
John M Hodge head mar 33 curate St Andrews Chapel b plymouth
Janny wife 31 b Exeter
Isaac L son 2
William L 1
John M son 1 month
children b plymouth

1891
address same as above
John Mackey Hodge mar Chaplin of Cemetery/ clergy/Curate of Egg Buckland
Jenny wife 41
Genevra dau 13
Isaac Lang son 12
William Lang son 11
John macKey son 10
Arminel mary dau 8
Henry Parnell son 3
Frances Miriam dau 10months
Annie Lang sis-in-law 20 living on her own meansb exeter
John Palmer Hogan Cousin 10 b Plymouth
+ Child's Maid, House maid and Cook
 Shocked

1901 same address as above
John M Hodge head mar 53 Priest (Church of England) and schoolmaster/Clergy b Plymouth
Jenny wife 51 b exeter
Isaac L son 22 University graduate (unemployed)
William L son 21 medical student
Arminel  M dau single18 university student
Dorothy s dau 16  University student
Henry P son 13
Andrew B son 8

wow   Shocked Shocked Shocked

deb Smiley


I know I'm replying to this very late but thank you so  much for posting this!!!! I have been looking for information on my family for a long time. I am a Canadian descendant of John Mackey Hodge and Jenny Lang and have been looking for information about them for some time, so thankyou!!!!!!   Smiley
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Re: WESTLAKE family from Plymouth
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 14:53 BST (UK) »

hey cousin!!!!!
is our john westlake any link to this family, he married amelia jane harding in stoke dameral in dec qtr 1897 following the death of her first husband thomas harding, seems an interesting theory doesnt it !!!!
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