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AlexWood
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George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« on: Saturday 08 November 08 21:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi I'm new to this and have hit my first problem... Smiley

I can find this couple in the 1841 census for Gamrie with their children William (8 ), Margaret (4), George (6) and James (2).

By the 1851 census the parents have disappeared and all the children appear to be in service with different families.

I would expect this to reflect the parent's deaths and the kids being farmed out.

However...by 1851 there's a George and Barbara Wood in Gamrie at a location that features later in my one's (James) life. They are about the right age and George is also an agricultural labourer.  But they have a different set of children that I can't find in the 1841 census.  There's no other likely candidate in the 1841 census that I can find either.

Any advice on how to tackle this or a solution that wraps it all up would be most welcome.
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MonicaLesl
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 November 08 22:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alex

Welcome to RootsChat  Smiley

Looking at IGI, there are at least two couples called George Wood and Barbara.

There is the George Wood and Barbara Killock in Gamrie:

1. ISABEL WOOD Birth: 15 SEP 1828
2. MARY WOOD  Birth: 08 AUG 1830
3. WILLIAM WOOD Birth: 23 JUL 1832
4. GEORGE WOOD - Birth: 14 NOV 1834
5. JAMES WOOD  Birth: 22 AUG 1838
6. BARBARA WOOD  Birth: 19 MAR 1842

There is also George Wood and a Barbara Rankin over in King Edward, Aberdeen having children at the same time:

1. ISABELLA WOOD  Birth: 02 APR 1835
2. MARY WOOD   Birth: 28 OCT 1836
3. HELEN WOOD Birth: 26 OCT 1838
4. MARGARET WOOD Birth: 02 FEB 1841
5. JAMES WOOD   Birth: 26 JAN 1844
6. GEORGE WOOD  Birth: 11 NOV 1845

From what you said, is your family that with mother Barbara Killoch?

Monica  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 November 08 22:43 UTC (UK) »

This looks to be the family from King Edward in 1841, with a number of farm servants in the household:

George Wood,35, Farmer, b. Outside Census County        
Barbara Wood, 25, b. Outside Census County       
Mary Wood, 4, b. Aberdeenshire           
Hellen Wood, 2, b. Aberdeenshire           
Margaret   Wood, 5months, b. Unknown

Address: Morlass, King Edward

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
MonicaLesl
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 November 08 22:52 UTC (UK) »

Alex

Just had a look at that 1851 family. With the children showing for George and Barbara (Killoch), that entry would fit:

George Wood, 54                   
Barbara, 49               
Eisabella, 22, Emp At Home - (Birth: 15 SEP 1828 )       
Mary   , 20, In Bad Health - (08 AUG 1830 )           
Barbara, 9 - (19 MAR 1842)          
John, 5            
(Infant)Grnson, 3 months

Address: Draidland, Gamrie    

It's not unusual to find the older children, including James at his young age of nearly 13, away from the family home working.

Monica

      
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
MonicaLesl
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 November 08 23:04 UTC (UK) »

The family that you already have an entry for 1841:

George Wood, 45, Ag Labourer        
Barbra Wood, 40            
William Wood, 8               
George Wood, 6
Margaret Wood, 4                   
James Wood, 2

Address: Cushnie, Gamrie   

There is a young Mary Wood maybe staying at her Uncle's (?) also in 1841, showing as same address as her parents:

James Killoch 40, farmer
Elisabeth Killoch 40
Mary Killoch 9
James Killoch 6
Elizabeth Killoch 4
William Killoch 2
Ann Murray 15
Mary Wood 10 , female servant

Address: Cushnie, Gamrie   

Monica                    
    
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
MonicaLesl
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 November 08 23:13 UTC (UK) »

George and Barbara made it past the start of official registration in 1855 which will let you search for their death certs. and confirm their parents' details Smiley This looks like them in 1861, everyone showing as born in Gamrie:

George Wood 65, Farmer Of 12 Acres
Barbara Wood 60
George Wood 26, Railway
Isabella Wood 32
George Rhind 10, grandson
Margaret Roger 6, granddaughter
Isabella Ross 2, granddaughter

Address: Draidland, Gamrie

Possible birth entry for George Wood Snr.

GEORGE WOOD Birth:07 JUN 1796/Christening:16 JUN 1796 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
Parents:WM. WOOD and MARGT. WOOD

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
AlexWood
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 November 08 21:55 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Monica, this is a great help.  Yes my family are George Wood & Barbara Killoch. Also Killah in one source but Killoch seems the commonest spelling.

The Mary staying with the Killochs is a good candidate for George & Barbara's daughter because I've found a baptism record for a daughter of theirs called Mary born in 1830.  I was keeping her for later investigation so that's another job you've saved me.  Smiley

Margaret doesn't appear as their daughter from the birth records so I'm guessing a niece but will look into that later.

Thanks very much for your help.
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 November 08 22:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alex

The Margaret who shows in 1841 could well fit for daughter. There is an appropriate gap for her in 1838 in the list of children. Not sure if her birth/christening would show on SP, it doesn't show on IGI where I got the list of children that I posted. Sometimes happens that you have gaps in the lists of children (registers for that year lost over the years for example).

Hopefully you will be able to trace through  Smiley

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 November 08 22:33 UTC (UK) »

In 1851, there is a Margaret Wood, 14, working as a domestic servant in Gamrie (b. Gamrie). There is also a birth (illegitimate it would seem) of a Barbara Taylor or Wood in Gamrie in 1857, to a James Taylor and Margaret Wood. The went on to marry on 18 DEC 1858 Gamrie. Given her age and birth place in the 1861 census in Longmanhill, Gamrie, this looks like the same Margaret.

This marriage will let you verify whether she is family when you move on to the extended family of James  Smiley

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carol McI
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 19 February 09 14:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alex

I am also researching this same family.  My Wood family originated in Gamrie.  They were farmers.

I have traced mine back to John Wood and Anne or Jane Ingram - they had a son William Wood in 1794 who married Christian Watt in New Deer.  I am keen to compare notes with you to see if we can help each other

Carol
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Findlay - Fetteresso, Cookney, Kincardineshire
Allan - Foveran, Aberdeenshire
Wood - Aberdeen, Auchnagatt
Ferguson - Auchnagatt
Knight - Stonehaven
McIntyre - Mid Calder, Edinburgh
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 19 February 09 16:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi,I'm also researching Woods of Gamrie. However they are a different line to yours.  I've traced back to John Wood & Ann Morison who married in Gamrie on  December 28th 1805.They had a lot of descendants. If anyone has a query regarding them I'd be delighted to assist!
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE,  WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER,JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW,IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE,WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 19 February 09 23:42 UTC (UK) »

I have pondered for a long time whether Jphn Wood, of John Wood and Ann Morison was married twice.  The first time to Anne Ingram.  I think I have decided that John Wood and Anne Ingram was a different John.  He is the right age but all his children were born at Minnonie and all John Wood and Anne Morison's were born in or near Covie (about 5 miles away).

My William Wood's death cert (1868) has his parents as John Wood and Jane Ingram.  I wondered if the "Jane' was a mistake as the only marriage is between John Wood and Anne Ingram.

My William Wood moved to New Deer and, interestingly, John Wood and Ann Morison's son William also moved to New Deer and became a chemist.

I would be pleased to hear from you

Carol
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Findlay - Fetteresso, Cookney, Kincardineshire
Allan - Foveran, Aberdeenshire
Wood - Aberdeen, Auchnagatt
Ferguson - Auchnagatt
Knight - Stonehaven
McIntyre - Mid Calder, Edinburgh
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #12 on: Friday 20 February 09 11:39 UTC (UK) »

I have some information on John Wood but it was sent to me by someone who's interested in the Ingrams.I have not checked out the information but it could assist others who are interested in this couple.
John Wood in Minnony born c1760 (parents John Wood & Ann Reid?) married Anne Ingram born c1765.Family:Anne born 19 01 1788,christened 22nd.Witnesses John & Alex Ingram in Whitehill, Elizabeth born 22 07 1789, James born 20 10 1791, Alexander born 11 06 1793,witnesses to christening Alex.Ingram,Whitehill, & Alex Sangster, Minnony. William born 02 12 1794,witnesses Alex. Sangster,John Ingram,Minnony.  John born 27 05 1798,Isobel born 16 04 1802.All children were born in Minnony,Gamrie.
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE,  WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER,JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW,IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE,WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #13 on: Friday 20 February 09 11:42 UTC (UK) »

Just checked out William Wood from Protstown,Gamrie.He married Helen Strachan.His death certificate shows his parents as John Wood & Isabella Rankin. My informant had him down as a son of John & Ann (Ingram).
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE,  WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER,JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW,IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE,WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.
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Re: George and Barbara (Barbra) Wood
« Reply #14 on: Friday 20 February 09 11:52 UTC (UK) »

Alex, I have the names of the witnesses to the 6 christenings of George & Barbara's children. If you do n't already have this info,let me know!
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE,  WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER,JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW,IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE,WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.
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