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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 20 January 09 22:52 UTC (UK) »

Thank you so much .

That is fantastic.
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 16:16 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Sheila

I'll be 'phoning Wolverhampton office tomorrow.
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 22 January 09 16:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi ponjalow.

By chance I noticed a John Duffy aged  21 puddler of iron in the 1861 Census.

He was at Castle Street Bilston lodging with the Cartwright family.
James Cartwright 36 puddler of iron
wife Mary 34
Richard 5
Jeremiah 3
Mary Ann 1
lodger John Connery? 16 apprentice

All were  born Bilston

Sheila,
I also noticed a John Donaugh from Roscmmon lodging at 1 Griffiths Building Mill Lane with Michael Horn? and family (page 11)

Hope this helps.
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 22 January 09 18:23 UTC (UK) »

Hello Emgee,

Thank you for that,

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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 22 January 09 19:10 UTC (UK) »

Has anyone any thing on No 4 Court please.


Also The Christopher family .


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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 22 January 09 22:08 UTC (UK) »

 Would there be any Hales families there?
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 24 January 09 19:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi ponjalow and steve 100

in the 1881 Census I noticed;

Michael Christophers 39 
Margaret Christophers 40 
Mary F. Christophers 19 
Charles Christophers 17 
Patrick Christophers 15 
James Christophers 12 
Catherine Christophers 10 
Thomas Christophers 8 
Margaret Christophers 5 
Anne Christophers 1  at 31 Temple Street Bilston

Joseph Hales 47 
Ann Hales 47 
George Hales 26 
Joseph Hales 18 
Mary Hales 10  in Quarry Street Bilston

the 1881 Census is free to view on variou internet sites and will give you further details
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 24 January 09 20:43 UTC (UK) »

and Steve100

the Post Office Directory of Birmingham, Staffordshire & Worcestershire, 1850

Lists a Denis Hale - Shopkeeper in Oxford Street

see here

http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/pageviewer.asp?fn=0000aoaj.tif&dn=WVA16003tif&zoom=s
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 25 January 09 14:05 UTC (UK) »

Emgee thanks for that. Hale in your second post is not my family,but thank you again.
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 13:49 UTC (UK) »


Also The Christopher family .

Thanks.
Hi ponjalow,

are any or all of these your Christopher family?

Family Name   First Name(s)   Date of Baptism   Father's First Name(s)   Mother's First Name(s)   Mother's Maiden Name
Christopher   Margaret   19 March 1876   Michael   Margaret   Burk
Christopher   Thomas   10 November 1872   Michael   Margaret   Burke
Christopher   Anne   18 January 1880   Michael   Margaret   Burke
Christopher   Ja.s. Ernest   06 January 1895   Charles   Sarah Anne   Coyne
Christopher   James Pat.k.   18 October 1903   Patrick   Bridget   Hannon
Christopher   Alfred Vincent   23 April 1905   Patrick   Bridget   Hannon
Christopher   Francis Leslie   05 July 1907   Patrick   Bridget   Hannon
Christopher   Mary Teresa   22 February 1891   Charles   Sarah   Kilcoyne
Christopher   Sarah Anne   01 May 1892   Charles   Sarah Anne   Kilcoyne
Christopher   John Tho.s.   24 December 1893   Charles   Sarah Ann   Kilcoyne
Christopher   Michael   11 October 1896   Charles   Sarah Anne   Kilcoyne
Christopher   Marg.t. Helen   28 September 1902   Charles   Sarah Anne   Kilcoyne
Christopher   Margaret   24 January 1904   Charles   Sarah Anne   Kilcoyne
Christopher   Thomas   04 March 1900   Thomas   Helen   McElroy

sorry about the formatting!

They are from the Holy Trinity Church baptismal index.

I can now search up to the end of letter "C" but a few entries are incomplete at the moment, as the copies that I have were not clear enough to read. I'll recheck on my next visit to the archives.
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 17:27 UTC (UK) »

Just spotted another one of the above family:

Mother's Maiden Name   Mother's First Name(s)   Date of Baptism   Family Name   First Name(s)   Father's First Name(s)
Christopher   Catharine   17 April 1898   Bray   Jane   William
Christopher   Catharine   30 September 1909   Bray   Clara   William H.y.

Note that the column headings are in a different order (this only worked because she married someone whose surname was before "C" so there may be more when the rest of the database has been transcribed).
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Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 01 August 09 14:50 UTC (UK) »

The same court ten years later
(this is partly done from transcriptions as I only have one of the relevant pages so if anyone wants to correct anything, I will be very grateful)

#6 Thomas and Bridget O'Neill with children and Coyne step-children.
[From the children's baptism records, Bridget's name was originally McDonough and she was previously married to a John Coyne]

#8 is John and Julia Coyne with children and sister, Ellen Burke
[from the children's baptisms, Julia was originally Burke]

hi

Ive just started researching my mothers side of the family and came across this today, john and Julia coyne are my g g grandparents. what i know at the moment is limited and tracing Irish ancestry is proving to be much more difficult.

 john coyne was born 1846-7 and the first time i find him in a census is 1871,single, living at 52 temple street as 1 of 3 lodgers with the lalley family .my grandad believes john came over from westport county mayo ireland. i cannot find any evidence of this so far (his birth place being listed as ireland on the census). he married Julia Burke in 1872. the Burke family lived on oxford street but came from co mayo ireland too. john is a consistant name within the generations of male coynes, both my grandad and g grandfather have this name so i would be interested if you have any information on the the john coyne that was married to the Bridget mcdonough?

thanks
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 01 August 09 16:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sheila,
Going back to your initial post in this thread; what were the Christian names of the Widower and daughter Gaven in Court 2 Temple Street. 1971.
Thanks.
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 01 August 09 19:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi probert282 and emgee,

sorry I couldn't read your messages earlier as Rootschat sopped working for me.

probert282 welcome to Rootschat.  I do have more information for you on the Coyne family but it would be easier to send baptism details by PM after you have posted another couple of messages to unlock the system fo you (don't need to say anything much, just a quick reply). 

In the meantime, I can tell you that there is at least one definite link between the Lalley and McDonough families as a Michael McDonough who I suspect, but can't yet prove, is closely related to my McDonoughs (the brother of my great-grandfather?) married a Winifred Lalley.  It was the second marriage for both of them.  They were in Court 2 in 1871.

And hi again emgee.  The lodgers with the Brannan family in Court 2 were Patrick, a widowed furnace labourer born in Ireland about 1836, and his daughter Catherine, born in Wolverhampton about 1862.  The name was spelt Gavan in this case but some of the church records have it one way and some the other too.

Sheila
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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Re: #2 Court, Temple St, Bilston - Is your family here?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 01 August 09 19:59 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for the quick response, Shelia.
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