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silvery
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it seems that Esther Christina's parents were Frederick Spender and Emily Ann Noseda as per the censuses and the marriage; Frederick Spender = Emily Ann Noseda SEPT Q 1870 Chelsea, Greater London, London, Middlesex Vol 1a P 383 you can order her birth cert here ..using the volume and reference numbers Esther Christina Spender
sept q 1888
Wandsworth, Greater London, London, Surrey
Vol 1d page 545https://www.ancestryshop.co.uk/GRO/birth_certificate.phphope this helps ...I think it costs 7 pounds (sorry dopn't have a pound sign here only $  )
I have outlined them here for you. If you go to the GRO site also, it will only cost £7.
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lizzyann
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???Gone to that site sorry to keep worrying you, filled it all in but it keeps coming back with the * errors all the time.
Don't no what to do next.
Lizzy
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silvery
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If you go to the GRO site directly it is only £7.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
register
page 1, fill in and scroll down to answer YES you have register office index (and fill in year of the event which is here 1888)
page 2. delivery address details
page 3, fill in the red starred bits only
This is the information that you need to put in on the last page.
Esther Christina Spender
Year: 1888
quarter: Sept
district: Wandsworth
vol: 1d
page: 545
Honestly, it's not too difficult. Give it a whirl, don't worry about coming back if you get stuck.
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lizzyann
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Success at last deb. Dispatching it out on Monday.
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lizzyann
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[b][/b][i][/i]Also I think Emily did call herself Ann I have loads of information on Emily Ann Noseda, from my mate Christine on Genes Reunited.
Frederick Spender was from Trowbridge Wiltshire. His mum from Lambeth. Fredericks father was called Issac Spender and his mothers name was Sarah.
Is there anyway I can send this information to you?
Lizzy
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lizzyann
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Wow! see how the Lord puts everyone in place, that's great news Debs is really good. Yeah, its going really well. Im getting so excited with it all. But oh! it so confusing as well. Can't remember what a cinti is lol sure sighn of getting older. Don't no about being all done yet cathay but all our ancestory goes back to God.
God Bless you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxLizzy
I have just ordered the birth certificate of course I will send a copy to you when i get it. They are dispatching it on Monday.
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deb usa
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the Waterfield girls ..all 7 of them!
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Hi all
Firstly ...thank you silvery for helping Lizzy ann out with ordering the birth cert 
Cathay ...great to see you! how weird that we are all are kinda connected.
I have just been looking around and I am a bit confused ....
Lizzy, you said frederick Spender b 1851/3, his parents were Isaac and sarah .... I think they were his grandparents
In 1861 we find Frederick Spender , 8 years old with his parents Frederick , 35 carpenter b Trowbridge and Elizabeth , 30 b Lambeth Surrey. His siblings are ;
Joseph 7
Alfred 5
Edward 3
sarah Ann 6months
living in Regent st, Chelsea
Now Frederick, the father, is with his family in 1851
St Luke, Chelsea
1 Doyley Street
Isaac Spender head 50 carpenter b Wilts, Salisbury
Sarah wife 48 b Trowbridge
FRED 23 carpenter b Trowbridge...this is frederick Jnr's dad
Esther dau 22 dressmaker b "
Eliza 15 b Trowbridge
Sarah A 7 b "
so Frederick Spender b c 1853 married Emily Ann Noseda
His parents were Frederick and Elizabeth
His grandparents were Isaac and Sarah
deb
Marriage ;
Isaac SPENDER married Sarah PARADICE
23 MAR 1823 Trowbridge
IGI extracted
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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this may be Sarah Paradice's christening and parents;
SARAH PARADICE 11 AUG 1802 trowbridge parents; Reuben Paradice and Hester Parfitt (they married 8 june 1801, Trowbridge)
IGI extracted
in 1841 Reuben Paradise (transcribed as Pandise ) is living in Back street Trowbridge ...he is a cloth maker and is living with other cloth makers/travellers and hawkers
Isaac Spender
born; 28 MAR 1801
christened; 13 SEP 1801 Crow Lane Independent, Wilton By Salisbury, Wiltshire
parents; Thomas Spender and Elizabeth
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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lizzyann
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Yes debs :)you are excatly right, they were his grandparents and christine my friend on genes reunited has sent me the same.
Does travellers and hawkers mean they were gypsys at some stage?
I could send you what she sent me, if you can give me your email.
If you are aloud to.
Lizzy
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deb usa
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Hi Cathay
in 1841
Isaac Spender 40 carpenter, retailer of beer
Sarah 35
Esther 13
FREDERICK 15 ..he married Elizabeth ?? and had son FREDERICK who married Emily Ann Noseda
Joseph 9
Eliza 4
Rhoda 2
Esther PARADICE 70 ind
I don't see them as being travellers .... also why would Frederick Jnr (= Emily Ann Noseda), say in certain censuses that he was born Spain , naturalised British Citizen....
I wonder if any of his siblings state that they were born Spain?
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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just to clarify ...Reuben was living with some hawkers and travellers ...he was stated as being a cloth maker.
Hold on for email , Lizzy
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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