Author
|
Topic: SPENDER/NOSEDA/PARADICE (Read 3032 times)
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Posts: 6447
the Waterfield girls ..all 7 of them!
|
just found a Nicola Noseda 45, hawker b Italy ... living in Bishops Stortford, Hertfordshire, in 1861
I think we need the Noseda line ...Lizzy it might be better if you post what you know here (instead of emailing me) in case anybody is related ...you may also want to change your Title of this thread to Spender/Noseda/Paradice ... just in case their are others who can help or are related
deb 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
|
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Posts: 6447
the Waterfield girls ..all 7 of them!
|
In 1851 Nicola Noseda is with her brother Guiseppe Noseda 56 ...both born Lombardy and both Pedlars, in St Andrew London ....wonder if they are related?
will check Emily Ann Noseda's census info
deb
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
|
|
|
|
|
silvery
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 2285
information Crown Copyright, from www.nation
|
In 1881 RG11/606/105/39
Fred Spender 28 b Paddington, lab
Emily 29 b Chelsea
Fred 10 b Chelsea
Samuel 7 b Lambeth
Ann 4 b Lambeth
Fred married Emily Ann Noseda
Possible family for her?
1861 RG9/30/115/12
Mary Ann Noseda 35 shopkeeper b Pimlico
Mary A 15 b Soho
Jane 12 b Pimlica
Emily 9 b Chelsea
Edward 8 b St Pancras
Samuel 6 b St Giles
Henrietta 4 b St Giles
John 8 mths b Chelsea
1851 HO107/1473/368/26
Henry Noseda 30 master gilder b St James
Mary Ann 25 b Chelsea
Elizabeth 8 b Chelsea
Henry 6 b Chelsea
Mary Ann 4 b Chelsea
James 1 dau b St Georges
Ann 3 mths b Chelsea (I think this may be her)
Marriage
1842 Westminster vol 1 page 318
Henry Antonio Noseda
Mary Ann Peever/Pever
Henry's second name appears to suggest he may have had Spanish/Italian roots.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
lizzyann
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 57
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Information removed due to copyright violation. See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/copyright.php for more details
RootsChat must deal with any breach of copyright by its members.
For some time the team of Copyright Editors has been removing breaches of copyright and sending detailed personal messages to the member that had posted the information. Due to the volume of posts and members this is now impractical. Messages in breach will simply be deleted and this notice posted. We apologise for any inconvenience caused but are sure you will appreciate the importance of this issue.
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: Wednesday 26 November 08 13:30 UTC (UK) by copyright_editor »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Posts: 6447
the Waterfield girls ..all 7 of them!
|
oo well done Lizzy ...yes i have seen those censuses and it does look like her !
Cathay ...Re William henry Spooner ...there are a few possibles for him ...so we will need the marriage cert in order to discover his age, dad's name/occupation etc.
deb
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
|
|
|
silvery
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 2285
information Crown Copyright, from www.nation
|
In case you overlook it see my track a posting back from Lizzy's 
This marriage cert may be useful as well
Marriage
1842 Westminster vol 1 page 318
Henry Antonio Noseda
Mary Ann Peever/Pever
Henry's second name appears to suggest he may have had Spanish/Italian roots.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
lizzyann
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 57
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
How do I deleate that one sorry about that debs.
Lizzy
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
lizzyann
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 57
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Sorry which marriage certificate do you want? s
Sorry getting confused now may age lol, have to get our dinner now back be back shortly. I can't afford to buy any more certificates if I don't have the one you want.
Lizzy
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Posts: 6447
the Waterfield girls ..all 7 of them!
|
IGI has this extracted record
HENRY ANTHONY NOSEDA s/o Anthony Noseda and Ann
born; 20 MAY 1821
chr; 19 JUN 1821 Saint James, Westminster
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
|
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Posts: 6447
the Waterfield girls ..all 7 of them!
|
Hi silvery
Lizzy we need this marriage cert so that we can be sure of William Henry Spooner's lineage or does you friend/cousin have it already?
marriage;
Esther Christina Spender = William Henry Spooner
sept q 1908
Lambeth Greater London, London, Surrey
Vol 1d pg 650
deb
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
|
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Posts: 6447
the Waterfield girls ..all 7 of them!
|
I wonder if this is Henry Antonio's dad's WILL 
Online Document PROB 11/1866
Will of Antonio Noseda Printseller Saint Martin in the Fields , Middlesex
Date: 1836
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
|
|
|
silvery
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 2285
information Crown Copyright, from www.nation
|
Hi Deb  Nice work 
The will would be so useful. Is a download about £3.50? You've got his occupation anyway, printseller.
This side doesn't sound like gypsies to me.
Lizzy you're doing great. I only suggested the Henry Noseda marr cert, but Deb is finding out great stuff, so just get the other one. We all know how costly it is.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Posts: 6447
the Waterfield girls ..all 7 of them!
|
This is still bothering me ...why did he change his POB , up until 1891 he has stated Wiltshire and london ...
also can't find his marriage to 2nd wife , Elizabeth
1901Lambeth London Frederick Spender head mar 47 smith & fitter b SPAIN (natural gr British subject ..maybe naturalised?) Elizabeth wife 27 b London, lambeth Charles son 14 port errand boy b Battersea Esther E dau 12 b battersea wrong middle initial  I can't find a birth for an Esther E in 1888/9 Mabel dau 10 months b Clapham in 1891they are mistranscribed as SPONDER Battersea Frederick Spender head widr gen lab 38 b naturalised British Subject Samuel son 17 b Lambeth Alfred son 12 " Annie dau 15 " Frank son 8 b Battersea Sarah dau 6 " Charles son 4 " ESTHER dau 2 "
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
|
|
|
lizzyann
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 57
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Thanks Silvery I'm getting Esther Christina Spender my grannie's birth certificate they are sending it out on Monday.
Hope all this is not costing you both to much money for doing it all for me, I really appreciate all this.
Got to piece it all together lol when it done.
Lizzy
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
