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Erato
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I was shocked to see in a recent thread that the prohibition on quoting from Personal Messages includes one’s own PMs.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,340025.0.html
Can this possibly be true? If so, I have violated the rule any number of times. Why on earth should I be expected to rework or paraphrase my own writing? If I think my own words, used in a PM, could be usefully transplanted to a public forum, why am I prohibited from cutting and pasting them? Or is it OK to do so as long as I don’t mention that the words were originally used in a PM to member XXX?
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Wicklow: Chapman, Pepper
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Erato
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Surely I would be the best one to judge whether I am taking my own words out of context. For that matter, it sems to me that I should be able to use my words in any context I want.
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Wiltshire: Banks, Taylor
Somerset: Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire: Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol: Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down: Ennis, McGee
Wicklow: Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire: Logan, Conning
Wisconsin: Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine: Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Erato
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You could take whatever words you wish to emphasise your own point of view which may or may not be the correct one but it is your viewpoint and while in the majority of instances the meanings are well intentioned a minority who have other aims can distort those same words.
Although an extreme example - look at the christian churches . They all work ostensibly from the same words but all manage to take a different meaning from them.
I'm afraid I don't understand your point.
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Wiltshire: Banks, Taylor
Somerset: Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire: Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol: Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down: Ennis, McGee
Wicklow: Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire: Logan, Conning
Wisconsin: Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine: Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Erato
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No brainer? Thank you very much.
Perhaps a moderator will step in and answer this question in a more intelligible way.
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Wiltshire: Banks, Taylor
Somerset: Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire: Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol: Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down: Ennis, McGee
Wicklow: Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire: Logan, Conning
Wisconsin: Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine: Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Gadget
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My view is that if you decide to post your own message for a wider audience, then there's no problem as long as you post it as a new message and not a quote from your PM.
I can think of a few examples of this. For example, if you sent me the first posting on this thread and asked me to read it to see if it made sense or if you wrote to someone who you were helping on a thread and then thought that it would be more relevant on the thread, etc.
I don't think it is ethical to quote from someone else's PM though.
Gadget
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Erato
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No Brainer - The term is often applied to decisions which are straightforward.
Now that's a no brainer. In fact, it's a "strange loop."
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Yes, Gadget, that's what I'm trying to get at. Is it allowed?
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Wiltshire: Banks, Taylor
Somerset: Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire: Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol: Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down: Ennis, McGee
Wicklow: Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire: Logan, Conning
Wisconsin: Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine: Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Gadget
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Don't know Erato but I can't see that it wouldn't be as long as you present it as a new message and the person that you've sent it to for checking or whatever agrees to it but maybe a Mod could clarify.
I have sent drafts of messages to the CE before now to see if the message was appropriate.
Gadget
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Erato
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Well let's say that I wrote you a PM expressing some idea or opinion of my own. Then later I thought it would be useful to express that same idea or opinion to a wider audience. Why would I need your permission to do so? I can see why I need your permission to drag you into it, but if I make no reference to the fact that I originally sent this to you as a PM, then where's the problem?
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Wiltshire: Banks, Taylor
Somerset: Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire: Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol: Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down: Ennis, McGee
Wicklow: Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire: Logan, Conning
Wisconsin: Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine: Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Necromancer
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I've updated my profile ......
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There is no problem - thats a 'no brainer' ......
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Gadget
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I don't see it as a problem as long as it is not put up as a quote from a PM but as a new message.
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