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Necromancer
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I've updated my profile ......
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ah, the cool calm voice of reason at last 
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Gadget
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Holy Island - Pilgrims' Path
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Oi
I was pretty cool and calm as well 
I've had Pms from pals asking me to check their logic in a look up, etc. and have checked things and said 'Fine' or whatever. When they subsequently put it on a thread, i don't go in and say anything - it was their work and their words.
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Necromancer
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I've updated my profile ......
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Fair comment 
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Guy Etchells
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I see two issues here
1) Rootschat staff reading what is supposed to be a private message between two members.
Surely that is wrong and distasteful, it to me is a form of eavesdropping.
2) Rootschat censoring a persons individual freedom of expression.
People sometimes PM other forum members to ensure they see a particular posting.
I cannot see anything wrong in quoting ones own words from a private message.
I would suggest it is time for a re-think of policy.
Cheers
Guy
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O1dgobbo
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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There can be no objection to somebody expressing a view in an open thread that they may have previously expressed in a PM. However, if it is shown as a quotation from a PM then there is the implication that the recipient of the PM shares that view, whereas she may not. Thus it is reasonable to reproduce text from your own PM but not giving it false authority by showing it as a quotation.
I stumbled across a thread a short time ago which seemed to be a PM from X to Y thanking her for some information and asking for clarification. Being neither X nor Y I had no idea what it was about and thought it rather careless of X to put it in an open thread without the original question.
All the best
Gobbo
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Fife - Co?per, Dun, Jackson
NE England - Harland, Hasted, Heaviside, Longridge, Thompson
SE England - Drawbridge, Hall, Hayward, Howard, Newell, Seward, Slade, Smith
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grub
Global Moderator
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 1128
Xander
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I see two issues here
1) Rootschat staff reading what is supposed to be a private message between two members.
Surely that is wrong and distasteful, it to me is a form of eavesdropping.
2) Rootschat censoring a persons individual freedom of expression.
People sometimes PM other forum members to ensure they see a particular posting.
I cannot see anything wrong in quoting ones own words from a private message.
I would suggest it is time for a re-think of policy.
Cheers
Guy
1. Rootschat does not nor ever will read PMs.
It has been stated repeatedly that these messages are
just that, PRIVATE.
2. Rootschat has no way of knowing the full content of a
PM therefore opts to avoid having any portion of it cut
and pasted onto the main boards.
Your wording from your earlier PM can easily be para-
phrased, can it not, as a brand new post?
3. A persons PM sent to you is to remain private between
the two correspondents.
It's easy enough to understand and I personally take great offense at the insinuation that PMs are "invaded" and read by Rootschat moderators.
Don't you think we have enough to do??
Grub
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Bayley, Dorset, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cheshire and others. Antrobus, Somerset/Glouster Skelton, Heslington, Yorkshire James, Norfolk, and London Delasalle, London area Gravett/Grevet, Surrey Also searching the above in Australia “Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk” |
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Erato
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Posts: 1184
J and J
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I beg your pardon, I never said or even implied that moderators read PMs.
But thanks to you both, I think you've answered the question. I can do a very light editing of the words I used in a PM and then reuse them as I see fit.
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Wiltshire: Banks, Taylor
Somerset: Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire: Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol: Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down: Ennis, McGee
Wicklow: Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire: Logan, Conning
Wisconsin: Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine: Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Guy Etchells
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If you bothered to read the posting instead of getting on your high horse you would see there was no insinuation but a suggestion of two options which would alert the staff (here read moderators or owners or any other authorised personnel of Rootschat) of the content of a PM.
Some people like to look at both sides of an issue not just consider one scenario.
There are many uses of the PM system one being to alert a particular member of the details of a posting. The most effective way of doing this is to use the same wording in the posting as in the PM. Otherwise some may interpret the PM and the posting differently.
Cheers
Guy
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Erato
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J and J
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Take it easy. I'm not on a high horse.
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Wiltshire: Banks, Taylor
Somerset: Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire: Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol: Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down: Ennis, McGee
Wicklow: Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire: Logan, Conning
Wisconsin: Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine: Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Little Nell
Global Moderator
RootsChat Marquessate
Posts: 7265
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I am pleased to see that no-one is on a high horse.
I am also pleased to see that Erato feels that his question has been answered.
Now that we have established that, I hope that we can call the matter closed.
With apologies to anyone who sees this as unecessary, I am locking the thread. I have listened to more than enough circular discussions at work just recently and do not feel up to coping with any more. Family history calls........
Nell
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