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Topic: Calling the advanced genealogists! (Read 1261 times)
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aghadowey
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Civil registration of births in Ireland began in 1864 so for earlier dates there would have been no birth certificates. People didn't need lots of paperwork for proof of age and some were not literate. Many people would not have known their exact date or place of birth.
Sometimes baptisms are missing from registers or children were not baptised as infants. Some families moved around and children might remember going to one particular church but not realise that they were actually baptised wherever the family lived earlier.
You mention checking Catholic and Protestant records so is it possible that you're not sure what religion the family might have been? If you checked 'Protestant' records which church/churches did you actually check- Church of Ireland, Presbyterian, Methodist, etc.?
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aghadowey
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It could be that other church records (if any) did not survive.
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hyfreelo
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What surnames are you researching in Laois and what time period?Bill
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LH
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Hi
Mountrath had a strong Methodist following and I'm pretty sure there was a Methodist Chapel in the area during the 1800s.
If you give the surname(s), someone may be able to assist.
Cheers
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seanmac
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Give us the surname and we'll see what we can come up with,
Jack
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Cog
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I know that this will probably not help how you feel in your research, and I dont have an answer, Just wanted to share an experience.
I searched for 15 years for the family of my GGgrandmother from Clare, census pages told me she was born in Kilbaha in 1845. This coincided with a time when there were no parish records because the landlords of the time would not allow a church there. On questioning elderly family members for years and coming up with nothing....last year a chance discussion with an elderly relative, after visiting my GGGrandmothers birhtplace, I talked about a family tragedy that had happend in 1897, my elderly aunt remembered my grandmother talking about this tragedy and who it had involved. With this information I was able to piece family members together, members that had the same name in the same area as my GGgrandmther but without this information I would never have been able to connect them. I have since found newspaper accounts on this tragedy and verified that the were in fact the same family. What I am trying to say is that dont give up you never know what you might come across or who you might find yourself talking to, parish and civil records are not always the only way. Keep the faith,
Carol
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O'GRADY - DUBLIN,TIPPERARY,& ENGLAND
KAVANAGH - DUBLIN
HARRIS- CLARE, CORK, & ENGLAND
BLANEY- WEXFORD
FURLONG-WEXFORD
MELICAN- CLARE
OTHER NAME INTERESTS - MORAN FROM CLARE
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aghadowey
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Yes, Carol, clues can come from the strangest details. I was stuck on my grandfather's family. His older sister only remembered that her parents came from 'somewhere in County Londonderry and there were green hills and a river' so I gave up for while. It was only when my grandmother died that we found a 'baby book' given to my father with a space for a family tree. My grandfather had his mother's name slightly wrong, mixed up the day and month of parents' birth and also their birthplaces but luckily the two surnames were uncommon in the area and I was able to track down both families.
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xpress4
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Having a look at RootsChat and found these replies to my post that have been here quite awhile. Not sure why I didn't see them, but wanted to thank all of those who replied and apologize for the delay in my response!
The surnames are unfortunately very common. Moore and Law
Denis Moore (b. ~1814, Queens County) married Bridget Law
Denis had a father, Fenton Moore (a butcher), a brother Anthony (b. ~1831), and a nephew Fenton Moore (b. ~1831) that I can document (but there are obviously more Moore's there), all of Queens County.
Members of my family were always told their ancestors came from Mountrath, but I can't prove it!
Thanks to all for your help/input and sharing your stories!
Brenda
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MOORES: IRELAND->ENGLAND
SANDFORDS: IRELAND->ENGLAND
OTHERS: CHAPMAN, JEFFRIES, BUTLER, AIREY
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tootsiepie
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Hi, How would a FINTON Moore suit? It's possible he would still be alive at this time. (in this county abt.1850)
Search G.V. on the above spelling at
http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php
There are 2 entries in Laois for Finton as a Tenant (land only ) and 1 as a landlord.
So where's he staying? As he's possibly a good age, it's feasible he's staying with a family member and rented his house out to Mr Keenon. 
Ther's a Margaret Moore in one of the above townlands, possibly a widowed daughter in law?
Map to follow as the maps don't appear to be working on the G.V. site.
Found it.
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=mountrath&countryCode=IE&zoom=12&moveMap=0,0
If you look back to the 2/3 G.V. entries, you'll find nearby townland names of Ross, Knockmay ,Pallas big etc. (next door townlands to the Finton entries). If you click on the above map, you'll find these townlands abt 2 ins North West of Mountrath
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Flynn,Cox, Slaven-Co Longford
Donnelly,McGeown,Hughes,McCrory- Co Armagh
Hargan,Curran,Bradley,Grant,Peoples ,Patton,Dunn-Donegal
Conway,Degnan,McDonald,Cassidy,Kelly,Fenmore,Ryans,Kilkenny,Murray-Ireland/England/Scotland
Reeves,Fox,Williams-Shropshire/Staffordshire/Scotland
Gill,Kane-I.O.M/England/Scotland
Murdoch,Bruce,Rankine,Ballantyne-Ayrshire
McCutchen,McAdam,Wright-Kirkcudbright,Dumfries,Ayrshire
And others
Plus all variations in spellings
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LH
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Hi
LDS show:-
Finton Moore born 1863 at Ballyfin, Co Laois (Queens County)
Mary Moore born 30 April 1878 at Ballyfinn, Co Laois. Parents are listed as Fintan Moore & Anne Moore Breen)
Christopher Moore born 3 Dec 1893 at Ballyfin, Laoighis, Ireland (Died 15 Mar 1976) (Parents here again Fintan Moore and Annie Breen)
Finton Moore marrying Annie Breen in Ballyfin in 1888. (This would be 10 years after daughter Mary above was born)!
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Finton Moore born 9 May 1870 at Laois. Parents John Moore and Catherine Perkinson
It seems like Ballyfin crops up a number of times here and I wonder if this could be the family you are seeking.
Cheers
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