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Colin Cruddace
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Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« on: Wednesday 12 November 08 23:33 UTC (UK) »

Hello,
I've been checking posts and several members have an interest in these names.
I was stuck with a baptism for James Crudace born c1797, claimed to be at Middlesbrough. The best match I could find was 1800 at Penshaw for James Croudace and I managed to gather a lot of information for these families. It now turns out that it was this family who went to Monmouth so I was able to pass on all the details to Croudaces, who was looking for them.  Grin Grin Grin
Everything tied in beautifully for her family and I knew they were far too affluent and well connected to be part of my James' family. He was a humble carpenter and joiner in Bishopton. Undecided

I noticed that many of us are stuck round about the same time so we might be able to help each other by eliminating places for searching.

Any takers?
Colin
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littleclaire
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 November 08 22:10 UTC (UK) »

Yes please!

I have traced my family back to William Cruddace (1815 Barnard Castle). He married Sarah Turnbull. I cannot find anything about his parents. No baptism in bishops transcripts around Barnard Castle or Durhamrecordsonline or IGI or anywhere. He is a mystery.

In random extra info to share - I have info on Thomas Cruddas who married Sophia Wilson. He was from Barnard Castle and was born c1808. I thought he was an ancestor but he wasn't  Sad
Apparently he shot a gunshot in the weathervane in the centre of Barnard Castle in a competition with a friend.

Claire
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Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
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Colin Cruddace
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 November 08 00:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Claire,

This is my second attempt. Somehow, I managed to erase my first reply before posting it Huh Huh
I haven't anything on William c1815 but I'll keep an eye out for him. Cool

I've seen that story about the weather-vane, apparently he was a gamekeeper for the Streatlam family, and he was born at Streatlam.

My mother's side is Swainston, and there was a Swainston family at Barnard Castle who were gunsmiths and were also gamekeepers for the Bowes family. They flitted between Barney and Hertfordshire and had children in both places. It could be a similar story for ours, and it might be worth checking out.

Regards,
Colin
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littleclaire
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 November 08 11:23 UTC (UK) »

That sounds interesting... you could be on to something there? I did find some Cruddace's from Langley, which may be over the border in Yorkshire, too. My William was a gamekeeper at first also - it seems the quite a few of the Cruddace family were gamekeepers.

Claire
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Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
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Colin Cruddace
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 November 08 15:59 UTC (UK) »

The only Langley I've come across is near Witton Gilbert and I've covered those families quite extensively. The surname was fairly consistent as Croudace, but I'm convinced that the families in the Ferryhill area are related and their surname was usually given as Cruddas but very inconsistent. I've got those covered as well.
I've been checking some more of my notes and found a William Croudas baptised in June 1816 at Durham St Nicholas but unfortunately he was buried in October the following year.
A couple of items that you might not have -

Marriages at Staindrop
15th May 1823, Robert Cruddass of Bd Castle to Elizabeth Stoddart
13th April 1828, John Lodge & Ann Cruddas of Staindrop

Burial at Barnard Castle
28th Sept 1809, Isabella, age 24, dau of Robert Cruddass & Martha late Harker
(Could she be a sister of William's dad?)

Death Notice, Darlington & Stockton Times, Feb 11th 1922
feb 2nd at Thorpe, Robin Hood's Bay, William Cruddas ex Police Constable, aged 70, youngest son of the late Thomas & Sophia Cruddas, late of Wood End, Streatlam Park, Barnard Castle.

Perhaps it might be better to continue through normal email. If you agree can you send a PM with your address.

Regards,
Colin
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littleclaire
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 November 08 21:48 UTC (UK) »

I couldn't find Langley so assumed it was over the border, you've cleared up that one!

I will pm you my e-mail

Claire
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Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 November 08 18:13 UTC (UK) »

as i am doing one name study i am interested in your information-george croudace
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Colin Cruddace
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 November 08 18:43 UTC (UK) »

Hello George, and welcome to Rootschat.

How can I help? I assume you will be interested in all variations of the name.

Regards,
Colin
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 November 08 19:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi George

I'd be happy to share info to

Claire
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Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
Williamson (Durham) Hughes (Wales Bangor) Wiseman (Suffolk)
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 December 08 21:23 UTC (UK) »

thanks for the information you provided colin but i already had it what i would like to know is why you believe this part of the family from lanchester area went to monmouth area from my interpretation of the census and baptisms at st thomas monmouth the only person i can find is a william john who was born around 1805 and married mary ann morgan.if any one else has details i would be interested as i am trying to establish a one name study on the name croudace.
the family from the lanchester area is the most comprehensive in the quantity of information and international spread of the family do you trace your ancestry back to this family.
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Colin Cruddace
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 December 08 22:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi George,

These are the basic details of that family. It looks as though John & Elizabeth moved to the Monmouth or Bristol area, with their 3 surviving children, shortly after the death of daughter Jane in 1808. Another lister has the details of the familiy after this move, and I have many earlier generations.

Regards,
Colin

                     
1  CROUDACE, John   b: 1774 in Lanchester, County Durham     Baptism: 07 Apr 1774 Lanchester, County Durham  Source: Parish Records   
..+WATKIN, Elizabeth   b: 1777 in Washington, County Durham     Baptism: 24 May 1777 Washington, County Durham  Source: Parish Records
   m: 23 May 1798 Horton near Blyth, Northumberland  src: Parish Records      
2  CROUDACE, Elizabeth b: Mar 1799 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Baptism: 18 Nov 1800 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  Source: Parish Records         
2  CROUDACE, James b: 06 Jul 1800 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Baptism: 18 Nov 1800 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  Source: Parish Records         
2  CROUDACE, John   b: 1801 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     d: Sep 1801 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 27 Sep 1801 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, Mary   b: 04 Aug 1802 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Baptism: 29 Dec 1802 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  Source: Parish Records         
2  CROUDACE, Dorothy b: Jul 1803 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  d: Aug 1803 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 07 Aug 1803 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, John   b: 1804 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     d: Nov 1806 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 28 Nov 1806 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, Jane   b: 20 Aug 1805 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Baptism: 29 Sep 1807 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  Source: Parish Records d: Aug 1808 Philadelphia, Penshaw Staith, County Durham     Burial: 16 Aug 1808 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, Dorothy b: Aug 1806 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  d: Nov 1806 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 19 Nov 1806 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, Mary   b: Nov 1807 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  d: Dec 1807 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 15 Dec 1807 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records


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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 December 08 10:38 UTC (UK) »

Hello Colin and others interested in the Cruddace name (and variations)
Here is a Catholic baptism and marriage that may be of interest.

William Cruddace, born 18/Jan/1896, baptised16/Feb/1896,
parents John and Margaret Cruddace, maiden name Quinn, sponsor James Quinn.

John Cruddace son of William Cruddace of Hetton, married Margaret Quinn daughter of Michael Quinn of Tow Law on the 6/April/1885, witnesses Patrick English and Anna Quinn.

Both of the above were at St Joseph's Tow Law.

As for the Langley question in the previous postings.
Could it not be Langleydale? a small parish in Teesdale.
Perhaps the people just said langley.
Just google it to see what you think.

Adam
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Colin Cruddace
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 December 08 21:39 UTC (UK) »

Hello Adam, and thanks very much for those details.

I've found the family in 1901 at Crook (CRUDDES according to Ancestry) where William had two younger sisters, and his dad John as being born c1860 at Howden le Wear. In the 1891 at Helmington Row, John CRUDDAS was living with his widower dad William who was born c1822 at Kirby Stephen. I can't connect these with my line at the moment but I'll keep the details handy.

Regards,
Colin

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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #13 on: Monday 22 December 08 21:13 UTC (UK) »

thanks for the information you provided colin but i already had it what i would like to know is why you believe this part of the family from lanchester area went to monmouth area from my interpretation of the census and baptisms at st thomas monmouth the only person i can find is a william john who was born around 1805 and married mary ann morgan.if any one else has details i would be interested as i am trying to establish a one name study on the name croudace.
the family from the lanchester area is the most comprehensive in the quantity of information and international spread of the family do you trace your ancestry back to this family.
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Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 14:32 UTC (UK) »

thanks for the information you provided colin but i already had it what i would like to know is why you believe this part of the family from lanchester area went to monmouth area from my interpretation of the census and baptisms at st thomas monmouth the only person i can find is a william john who was born around 1805 and married mary ann morgan.if any one else has details i would be interested as i am trying to establish a one name study on the name croudace.
the family from the lanchester area is the most comprehensive in the quantity of information and international spread of the family do you trace your ancestry back to this family.

Hi George,

I am doing a study of the Croudaces ( my mother is a Croudace ) in Monmouth / Gloucestershire and have comprehensive records from the census and forestofdean.net.
I am interested in where you got the ' William John ' record from for his marriage to Mary Ann Morgan ( I am a direct descendant of this man ), as I have the details of his wedding record from the parish records and it only states ' John '. I have been corresponding with Colin and have yet to find out exactly where my ' John ' comes from.

Look forward to hearing from you.

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