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Topic: Not strictly FH but can someone help? (Read 1667 times)
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janmoon
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Larkrise to Candleford author was from Oxfordshire - are the accents in the TV show oxfordshire accents and what time frame are we talking about?
TIA
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Stourpaine Dorset (and Surrounds): Ball Haine/Hain/Hayne, Ferrett, New, Light, Roberts, Coward, Read, Coffin, Hill, Upward, Cole, Dominey,
Seward, Segar
Ontario, Canada: Wallace, Blow, Goodson
Tampa, Florida: Goodson
Hudson, Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Detroit Michigan: Goodson
Newport Mon: Bevan Evans Haines Ball Harris, Hopes
Louth/Sleaford, Lincs: Goodson Cartwright Crosby
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
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Old Bristolian
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Ada & Joan
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I think the book was set c 1880-95. I don't remember the accents too well (Personally couldn't stand Dawn French in it) but I would imagine they were BBC all-purpose country idiot type.
I did hear some genuine Oxdordshire accents in a wonderful programme about recordings made of WW1 prisoners by a German professor - they didn't sound like anything I've ever heard in a TV drama
Steve
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Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey - Oxfordshire
Street, Cave - Gloucestershire
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Emery, Clavey - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
McLennan, Mackintosh - Inverness
Williams, Jones - Angelsey & Caernarvon
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silvery
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I didn't like Lark Rise either, too romantic and idealistic.
I saw that programme of the WW1 recordings of regional accents, wasn't it wonderful!
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janmoon
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V sorry if I've offended anyone with my choice of entertainment, I do live in the sticks and am restricted to basic cable. But we have a restaurant business, and I am fascinated with accents - and we have an awful lot of visitors (we are in a World Heritage Rainforest location, and also attract a lot on international birdwatchers) and I thought the accents used sounded more West Country - not local yokel at all. Obviously I am lacking in the taste required to address this website. Sorry!
Jan
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Enfield/Edmonton: Warren, Ridler, Jenkins, Stevens, Shelton, Tookey, Card, Bailey,
Stourpaine Dorset (and Surrounds): Ball Haine/Hain/Hayne, Ferrett, New, Light, Roberts, Coward, Read, Coffin, Hill, Upward, Cole, Dominey,
Seward, Segar
Ontario, Canada: Wallace, Blow, Goodson
Tampa, Florida: Goodson
Hudson, Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Detroit Michigan: Goodson
Newport Mon: Bevan Evans Haines Ball Harris, Hopes
Louth/Sleaford, Lincs: Goodson Cartwright Crosby
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
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silvery
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No honestly - I didn't mean to upset you, really, I do apologise.  
I did see it!!
I agree didn't think the accents were Oxfordshire
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Old Bristolian
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Ada & Joan
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May I apologise as well - I didn't criticise the production/acting etc - its just a "Dawn French" thing!
I lived in Oxfordshire for several years in the 1970s & can't say I heard a genuine local accent - the area was already becoming a mixture of RP & estuary. I think originally it was more akin to a southern "midland" accent rather than west country though.
I fear the local accents of much of the south are fast disappearing - there must have been Sussex & Hants etc earlier this century - but do they survive?
Steve
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Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey - Oxfordshire
Street, Cave - Gloucestershire
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Emery, Clavey - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
McLennan, Mackintosh - Inverness
Williams, Jones - Angelsey & Caernarvon
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DianaM
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Hi Janmoon
Whereabouts in Daintree are you?
We stayed at Coconut Beach Rainforest Lodge, Cape Trib, in 2002 and absolutely loved it!
Diana in Chichester, England
PS like your cat too!
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CAVILL (Yorkshire, Lancashire, Pennsylvania), BROWN (Yorks) SCOTT (Yorks) STANLEY (Staffs) TAVERNOR (Staffs) BLAKE (London, Wilts) FOGG (Derbyshire, Manchester) Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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janmoon
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Hello Diana
We are in Daintree Village, which is the other side of the river from Coconut Beach - but funnily enough, we used to manage Coconut Beach in 1992/1993!
Glad you enjoyed your time here.
Regards
Jan
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Enfield/Edmonton: Warren, Ridler, Jenkins, Stevens, Shelton, Tookey, Card, Bailey,
Stourpaine Dorset (and Surrounds): Ball Haine/Hain/Hayne, Ferrett, New, Light, Roberts, Coward, Read, Coffin, Hill, Upward, Cole, Dominey,
Seward, Segar
Ontario, Canada: Wallace, Blow, Goodson
Tampa, Florida: Goodson
Hudson, Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Detroit Michigan: Goodson
Newport Mon: Bevan Evans Haines Ball Harris, Hopes
Louth/Sleaford, Lincs: Goodson Cartwright Crosby
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
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Keziahemm
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Clematis Lincoln Star
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How about the accent of Pam Ayres? She was born Stanford-in-the-Vale, Berkshire, now part of Oxfordshire.
Susan 
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Yorkslass
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Hello Janmoon and everyone else,
This British Library website has some brilliant recordings of local dialect and accents - some of the people they recorded were born in the 1860's and 70's!
http://sounds.bl.uk/SearchResults.aspx?query=Oxford&collection=AccentsAndDialects&page=1&results=10&sort=name&dir=asc
To say I'm a Yorkshire girl, I had a bit of difficulty with my home county!
Fascinating stuff.
Yorkslass
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Norris, London 1800's
Bird, Gt Yarmouth 1800's
Smowton, Yarmouth/Norwich 1770
Dublack, Yarmouth
Binks, Essex
Wilcock, Lancashire
Kettlewell, Yorkshire
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janmoon
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Thanks yorkslass - will check it out!!
You should hear my sisters accent, she's born in NZ but married a liverpudlian (not a scouser, but with a thick accent) and lives near Huddersfield. I have problems understanding her on the phone.
I am just fascinated with accents and how some are very much part of a location, whereas other change within a few kilometres - I lived in South Wales in the 1970's and the different accents there started this off.
Regards
Jan
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Enfield/Edmonton: Warren, Ridler, Jenkins, Stevens, Shelton, Tookey, Card, Bailey,
Stourpaine Dorset (and Surrounds): Ball Haine/Hain/Hayne, Ferrett, New, Light, Roberts, Coward, Read, Coffin, Hill, Upward, Cole, Dominey,
Seward, Segar
Ontario, Canada: Wallace, Blow, Goodson
Tampa, Florida: Goodson
Hudson, Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Detroit Michigan: Goodson
Newport Mon: Bevan Evans Haines Ball Harris, Hopes
Louth/Sleaford, Lincs: Goodson Cartwright Crosby
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
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Aunt Sally
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Hello!
My great great grandfather was from Tadmarton, which is not far from Juniper Hill where Flora Thompson lived. He couldn´t read or write, and is listed on the census of 1841 as "Dannell" - and I suppose this was how "Daniel" was pronounced, assuming that none of the family were literate and so informed the enumerator verbally of what they were all called etc.
So there you go - there´s at least one word and how it was pronounced for you. Can´t help with the rest of the language, though 
Regards,
Aunt Sally
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Durham - Brown, Sykes, Cunningham, Morby, Dunn
Oxfordshire - Morby/Moreby/Morbey, Gennings
Worcestershire - Tandy, Tibbetts, Poppett
Yorkshire - Sykes, Kaywood, Brown
Staffordshire - Tibbetts
Ireland - Cunningham
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janmoon
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Thanks Aunt Sally
It all helps flesh things out!
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Enfield/Edmonton: Warren, Ridler, Jenkins, Stevens, Shelton, Tookey, Card, Bailey,
Stourpaine Dorset (and Surrounds): Ball Haine/Hain/Hayne, Ferrett, New, Light, Roberts, Coward, Read, Coffin, Hill, Upward, Cole, Dominey,
Seward, Segar
Ontario, Canada: Wallace, Blow, Goodson
Tampa, Florida: Goodson
Hudson, Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Detroit Michigan: Goodson
Newport Mon: Bevan Evans Haines Ball Harris, Hopes
Louth/Sleaford, Lincs: Goodson Cartwright Crosby
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
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Vicwinann
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Hi all
The following might be of interest to those who like accents and local words. The poem was written a long time ago but the copyright is mine. Although Berkshire born, my father spent all bar a few years of his life in Oxfordshire where I was born and spent the first 40 years of my life. Even today, when I have lived in Hants for several years, my accent and usage of words amuses some people, including my grandchildren.
Vicwinann
An Oxfordshire Alphabet
A is fer an “Appening” – mebbee a splicing, a burying,
or a babby being drop’t.
B is for B’aint, like “You’m bain’t gunna be stop’t”
C is fer Clackin’ that chooks and ol’ wimin do.
D is the Dolly game – Aunt Sally to you.
E is fer Enywhen, time distant, past, or close.
F when you’m Firtlin’ like a dog just’ bin dose’t.
G is fer Gollopin’, when y’art boltin’ thy grub
H is fer Harknin’; when its noisy in the pub?
I tisn’t used much, most people say ‘Oi’.
Jes’ like all males are called “Ar ole boy”.
Kinder are relations, and most kids are called brats,
L fer a Larrupin’ which you’m got fer gettin in spats.
M is fer Midden, a dungheap in a square.
N is fer Noddlefruit; to you just a pear.
O is fer Ooman, when there’s just but one.
P when she’m Prattlin, like a gert, gret, ‘peater’ gun.
Q is fer Quaen , a matron she-cat.
R is fer Reynerd, the fox, or a sly man rat.
S fer the squitpit, which will be covered with lime.
Twist of a cow’s tail, means an instant in time.
U fer the land which is Upp'ard high of here.
V is fer Vittals, Varmint; and to Vinny is to peer.
W fer Witchet, the daub on a wattle built wall.
X fer X’lant when y’ talk like they up at the Big Hall
Y is fer Yammering and Yattering done by Yaffles and
young men on the ‘pull’.
And
Z fer a Zepher, a fine shawl made of wool.
Anyone not knowing what some of the words mean, let me know.
Yours
Vicwinann
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