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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:41 UTC (UK) »

Hello .. I'm a beginner with this, but so far, I've managed to trace my tree Mayer (Journeyman Potters in Scotland) back to John Mayer, who married Elizabeth Hodgkinson in 1793 in Wolstanton .... I know there is a connection with the Pottery industry but I'm now a bit stuck.  After reading your post, I'm wondering if my John Mayer is Samuel's brother John Mare/Mayer born in 1769? Cany anyone help?


Hi Maggie,

Sorry John Mear 9-4-1738 says see will 1823.
He married Sarah Whalley 23-8-1766 Wolstanton.

They had Samuel1767-21-7-1835 (I think) ist mayor of Newcastle 1833. He married Margaret Pepper 1773-1859 daughter of the famous John Pepper architect (Newcastle)

It looks like Samuel had a brother John 1769-1823 Bucknall. and Felix who married a Elizabeth Saunders.

Samuel and Margaret married in Bucknall 1794.

Samuel had Maria who married a Turner

Eliza who married a Wardley,

Samuel John and lots of others 10 in fact!

This is a handwritten tree by Jane , Samuel's sister.
If we can link Elijah and Samuel I have the tree which links the family to the Lords of the Manor at Norton Hall. This is William de la Mare and takes us back to Richard the Lionheart!

If any dates don't tally, check back with me as this is handwritten as I say.
Best wishes,
Patricia
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 17:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Have checked and it looks as though it may be. If this is the case I can give you the tree to a long way back!

There is no record of his marriage on this original tree but it says  b. (I think)Nov 1769 Bucknall and then scribbled is d 1823 see will 1821. Alongside it is Samuel , Felix etc.
How can I get your email so I can invite you to see the tree?
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 18:29 UTC (UK) »

That would be wonderful ... how exciting!

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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 21:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Will send you a test e mail to see if I have the right one!
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 21:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Maggie, thanks for the information which confirms what I had already found out, but unfortunately, there's still no connection to my Great Grandmother.

I already have a lot of information on the Adams Family history dating back to the late 1300's, but its the more recent (mid 1800's) where the connection is missing which is why I started with Anne Mare hoping it would lead me to my Great Grandmother.

Oh well, back to the drawing board, but would love to hear about any more information if it comes to light.

Regards
Claire.
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 22:01 UTC (UK) »

Ann Mare,

Hi,
Is Ann 1759-1836?

have you got her family lineage.

I have some more info if not.
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 22:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pat,
Yes, the Ann Mare I have is 1759 to 1836.   Would love to have more info on her lineage.  Thanks.

Regards
Claire
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #37 on: Friday 04 September 09 15:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Claire i'm new to chat line and am trying to link ann mare but saw your note. margaret naull nee adams had 2 brothers alfred and john whilst marg was born in mile end stepney it looks like the 2 bros are from newcastle under lyme and their parents are john adams son of joseph and mary cooper who it seems was married to bowyer lockettkeeping it short till i know what i'm doing terry
Thank you Caerfai and Maggie for your information.   At least I now know I am on the right track.

Maggie, on your tree does it show Anne's marriage to anyone, in particular Joseph Adams c1758-1830. I found some information that shows that Anne and Joseph had at least 11 children, Samuel, Joseph, Richard, Joseph (again), John, William, Anne, Mary, Margaret, Eliza, Jane.  One of these children will be my 2x Great Grandparent and is the missing link to my Great Grandmother, Margaret Mary Elizabeth Adams b1849, d1904, and who married James William Naulls 1845-1924.
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #38 on: Friday 04 September 09 16:47 UTC (UK) »

Mare/mayer.
found this site the other day and realised my work after ann mare 1759-1836 had picked up the wrong john mare.think i'm on the right track now have 3 john's going back to john 1660-1729 m rebecca smith.however can any one explain elijah 1717 at one point he seems to be john 1717 brother another as  half brother to john 1687(all from stoke)
thanks terry
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #39 on: Friday 04 September 09 17:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi - According to the tree I have the Elijah Mayer that married  Elizabeth Jebb had a brother John that married Mary Palmer.
His son, also called Elijah, had a brother called John and as far as I am aware neither of them married.
The line back from John and Rebecca Smith goes to circa 1050.
Unfortunately families seem to like to use the same names and it can become difficult to separate.
Hope that helps rather than confuses.
Best wishes
Maggie 
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #40 on: Friday 04 September 09 22:59 UTC (UK) »

thanks maggie that seems to have straightened that out back to checking out some new names as you say the continued use of the same names can make it difficult the use of latin in some of the parish registers doesn't help either.
regards terry
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 22 September 09 14:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi my name is jayne my nan was called Ellen Mayer her dad was called William F Mayer his dad was called Enoch Mayer and his dad was Samuel Mayer and his fater was called Obadiah Mayer, is there any connection to any of your family's i have been guided to this site by Pat and the family are all from Staffs can you help in filling in the gaps especially with the Wedgwood/Darwin family and did they all produce china, I know Samuel mayer did many thanks
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 24 September 09 09:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi - I've looked on the copy tree and there is not a lot of information.   The only Obadiah was born in 1773 and married Elizabeth Turner of Newcastle in 1803.  They ad a son called Samuel who died in 1860.  It says he was of London and had a daughter called Emma of Holborn.

As I did not do the tree myself I don't know how accurate that may be.  If you are able to make a connection to this Obadiah I can give you details of his siblings, parents etc.

Sorry I could not be more positive.

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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 24 September 09 10:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi - I forgot about the Wedgwood/Darwin connection.  I know that there were a number of marriages between the Mayer family and the Wedgwood family but the only connection I know of with Darwin is Maer Hall.  This is on Wikipaedia:  The large 17th century stone built country house and estate of Maer Hall dominates the village of Maer, Staffordshire. Its location in the district of Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, England, is attractively rural, but fairly close to the pottery manufacturing area around Stoke-on-Trent which attracted its most famous owner Josiah Wedgwood II. His nephew Charles Darwin often visited Maer, and married Josiah's daughter Emma.
A manor house at Maer dates back to 1282, the owner then being William de Mere. The present stone house was built around 1680 on a slope above a small lake, or "mere", which gave the house its name. In the 18th century the landscape designer Capability Brown altered the lake in a scheme of pleasure grounds.
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 24 September 09 11:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Maggie
This is the line I descend from, Samuel was a china manufacturer and he had a son called Enoch Mayer, also a George Henry, Ann,Pamela,Rachel and Elizabeth, Enoch married and Ellen Greenbanks and her sister Jane Greenbanks married a Thomas Chatfield, and it was from them who married into the Wedwood family with a Catherine Chatfield marrying a Edwin Wedgwood and he was 3rd cousin of Charles Darwin,Enoch's son was called Frederick William Mayer and he was my great grandfather, he did actually move to London, I do not how they feature in your line up, Obadiah when he died they lined the streets and he did marry an Elizabeth Turner, I do not know how far back they go did they come from Meissen in germany and were they of Jewish descent, A bit of a list but I hope either you kindly or anyone else can fill in the gaps many thanks jayne.
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