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Topic: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton (Read 2395 times)
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Elaine48
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Have both indexes and willing do to look-ups.
Elaine
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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fiona g
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Hi Elaine
what a great offer  .interested in the Leishman surname particularly Janet Thomson nee Leishman,b1883 died 13 Nov 1963 ,Newbattle.thanks
Fiona
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Elaine48
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I should have mentioned this is Vol. 1, Old Churchyard and Church:
Plot numbers: 19/18 & 20/10
ERECTED BY ROBERT LEISHMAN/NEWBATTLE
In memory of Helen Shanks, Lasswade, his daughter
who died 21st Jan 1881 aged 24 years.
Also Richard his son who died 9th May 1888, aged 20
years,
Also Agnes Hardie Leishman, Galadean Hill, Newtongrange
who died 4th July 1890 aged 16 years,
Also David Leishman Gallowdean Hill, died 4th March 1891
aged 18 years,
The above Robert Leishman died 24th August 1894,
Acre, Newbattle aged 63 years;
Also Mary, Newbattle, wife of George Caldwell and beloved
daughter of above who died 19th April 1905 aged 40 years;
Also Mary Murray, Monkswood, wife of the above Robert
Leishman, 26th Feb 1906, aged 75 years.
This one is recorded in the back under no Lair:
Richard Leishman, aged 6 weeks, Hillhead, interred Nov. 4th 1862
It is possible your relative may be in the next Vol. Also, I've discovered
many of my relations who died in Newbattle were taken back to
their parish of birth for burial. This surprised me.
Here is the website for this booklet:
www.recordingangels.org.uk
Elaine
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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Elaine48
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Forgot to say, there are 100's of Thomsons. Maybe Janet was buried without her maiden name. If you could
give me specific names of other family members, husband, children etc and dates, she still might be there
somewhere.
Elaine
Hi Elaine what a great offer .interested in the Leishman surname particularly Janet Thomson nee Leishman,b1883 died 13 Nov 1963 ,Newbattle.thanks Fiona |
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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fiona g
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Hi Elaine
many thanks for taking the time to check on the Leishman surname,no connection at the moment but maybe a connection in the future.
Forgot to say, there are 100's of Thomsons. Maybe Janet was buried without her maiden name. If you could
give me specific names of other family members, husband, children etc and dates, she still might be there
somewhere.
I cannot supply enough info on Janets husband Frank or their 14children but appreciate the offer.I off to check my tree incase I have missed anybody for you to look up  I may be back asking for more.
Fiona
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BFW
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Elaine:
Would you have any information on Abraham Archibald who died in 1834 or his wife Marjory (m.s. Robertson) - death date unknown. Abraham was buried on the 21 of November 1834 in Newton.
Barb
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Joannie 7
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Hi Barb
I hope that you don’t mind me hijacking your post, but I have sent you a PM regarding the post. As this is the first time that I have send a private message, I can only hope that you receive it OK, but if not please feel free to get back to me.
Jo
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Les de B
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This is only a possibility but worth a go if the Newbattle records go back to the early/mid 1800's.
Looking for John Thomson (sorry, saw your previous note on that surname), and his wife Euphemia Thomson, nee Nicol. I have no approx deaths on either, however, both were born Newbattle, he abt 1769, and she abt 1773. Their six children were also born Newbattle. Euphen 1795, Janet 1796, Margaret 1798, Marion 1800, Helen 1802 and John 1805. So I presume parents died sometime after 1805, and probably(?) before 1870.
Hope that helps, but if too difficult, not to worry.
Les
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Elaine48
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Sorry I haven't replied sooner. I never received an email notice about your post and just happened to take a look tonite. Yes I do have Abraham Archibald's COD and he is also in my tree:
Name: ARCHIBALD Abraham
DOD: 18-Nov-1835
Age: 59
Address: Redrow Newton MLN
COD: Asthma
Info: Father of Archibald Archibald
DOB: 21-Nov-1835
POB: Newton MLN
Also wife Marjorie:
Name: ROBERTSON Marjorie
DOD: 02-Apr-1854
Age: 78
POD: North Leith
COD: Old Age
Info: Mother of Robert. Archibald
DOB: 04-Apr-1854
POB: Newton MLN
There are so many mining families with ASTHMA listed as COD, which is more likely "code" for black lung.
Abraham and Marjorie's grandson Abraham b. 1821 Newton (son of Andrew Archibald b. abt 1797) married a
Catherine Moffat who is in my Moffat tree.
Hope this helps,
Elaine
Elaine:
Would you have any information on Abraham Archibald who died in 1834 or his wife Marjory (m.s. Robertson) - death date unknown. Abraham was buried on the 21 of November 1834 in Newton.
Barb
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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Elaine48
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Wonder why I'm not receiving email about these posts?
Sorry I couldn't find these names. The problem is there are so many of them and so many
mixed names in one lair. How they did these burials I don't know. There are 2 children
in my grgrgrandparents graves that I haven't a clue who they are. There was only 2 Nicol's
in the whole place which is very surprising considering what a common name it was.
Nicol, stillborn, Newtongrange, interred 30/04/1917 (In a grave with 7 other surnames.
No Lair: Jane Nicol, aged 55, Bonnyrigg, Cockpen, interred 25/09/1860
Do you have any married names for the daughters?
Elaine
This is only a possibility but worth a go if the Newbattle records go back to the early/mid 1800's.
Looking for John Thomson (sorry, saw your previous note on that surname), and his wife Euphemia Thomson, nee Nicol. I have no approx deaths on either, however, both were born Newbattle, he abt 1769, and she abt 1773. Their six children were also born Newbattle. Euphen 1795, Janet 1796, Margaret 1798, Marion 1800, Helen 1802 and John 1805. So I presume parents died sometime after 1805, and probably(?) before 1870.
Hope that helps, but if too difficult, not to worry.
Les
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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Les de B
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Thanks very much for the lookup, Elaine.
"Do you have any married names for the daughters?"
I'm only researching direct ancestors, so I've only got the one married name for the daughter.
Margaret THOMSON married (first) 25/4/1816 at St.Cuthberts, Liberton to George DOBIE. He died early 1830's. Her second marriage 12/8/1857 at Dalkeith to David ARMSTRONG. His death details are unknown, but Margaret is shown as a widow in 1851 Census. She d.2/2/1857 Dalkeith, being buried New Church Yard, Dalkeith.
Not being a "local", I'm unsure whether Dalkeith is covered by your indexes.
"Wonder why I'm not receiving email about these posts?"
Don't know, but I know of a couple of threads that do not notify me by email, so I check my "New Replies" link every so often just to make sure I'm not missing out on anything. I did receive an email for this thread.
Les
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BFW
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Thanks for the info on Abraham Archibald and Marjory Robertson Elaine. We do have ancestors in common as Abraham Archibald (the grandson) and his wife Catherine Moffatt are my second great grandparents.
Barb
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Elaine48
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Hi Barb,
I don't know how much you know about Newton parish but I have researched it for years, and have some amazing information and photographs etc. If you are interested please send me a private message.
Elaine
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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Elaine48
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You're welcome Les, sorry it wasn't much use.
I should have mentioned this is the Burial Index for the old Newbattle cemetery which I visited a couple of years ago and is in a very dangerous state of repair. Most of the graves stones have had to be knocked down due to safety concerns, the grounds are full of sunken graves. The council who knock the stones down don't worry about
whether the stone is right side up or not, so very often you can't read the names. However the actual index is kept at the Lothians FHS. The Newbattle new cemetery is in much better condition. This hasn't been completely
transcribed yet but will be available eventually.
Liberton is a seperate parish from St. Cuthberts. St. Cuthberts is in the heart of Edinburgh city whereas
Liberton like Newbattle, Dalkeith and other mining villages is on the outskirts. The majority of residents in the
outlining villages such as these were coalminers or farm workers. Anyone living in St. Cuthberts would
probably not have worked in these industries as there were no mines/farms in the actual city of Edinburgh.
My point being that Margaret would have been married in either Liberton or St. Cuthberts depending if her
husband was from there which would make him a different occupation.
There are a number of Armstrongs, no David's though and no Dobies. Dalkeith grave yard is also
seperate from Newbattle. I will be going there this summer though I don't think the actual written index is available yet. Will look and take as many photos as I can.
Elaine
Thanks very much for the lookup, Elaine.
"Do you have any married names for the daughters?"
I'm only researching direct ancestors, so I've only got the one married name for the daughter.
Margaret THOMSON married (first) 25/4/1816 at St.Cuthberts, Liberton to George DOBIE. He died early 1830's. Her second marriage 12/8/1857 at Dalkeith to David ARMSTRONG. His death details are unknown, but Margaret is shown as a widow in 1851 Census. She d.2/2/1857 Dalkeith, being buried New Church Yard, Dalkeith.
Not being a "local", I'm unsure whether Dalkeith is covered by your indexes.
"Wonder why I'm not receiving email about these posts?"
Don't know, but I know of a couple of threads that do not notify me by email, so I check my "New Replies" link every so often just to make sure I'm not missing out on anything. I did receive an email for this thread.
Les
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MILLAR, MCINTOSH, JAMIESON, MOFFAT, PRYDE/PRIDE, PEEBLES, PEACOCK, CHEYNE, THOMSON, ALL COAL MINERS FROM THE LOTHIANS
Then Millars, Jamiesons, Moffats in Fife, esp. Auchterderran.
Matthews - Devon & Wellington NZ
Danniell - Bourne Lincoln
Halliday & Holden - Ireland and Nelson NZ
McRae - Inverness & Canterbury NZ
McKAY/McCAY, McFADDEN, RODGERS, CONAGHAN, O'BRIEN,
GALLAGHER, ALL FARMERS FROM DONEGAL
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sueky71
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Hi Elaine,
Could you check for any Kennaway/Kennoway's please.
Thanks
Sueky
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Census information, Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukKennaway, Britton, Cruickshank, Jamieson, Wood, Braidwood, Swan, Inglis (Dalkeith, Edinburgh, Greenock, Glasgow, Lanarks) Cotton, Wood, Beckwith, Edwards, Rutland, Burgess, Davies (Liverpool, Lancashire, Cheshire, Bucks, Staffs) |
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