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Skoosh
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John Forbes, Glassmaker, Edinburgh.
« on: Friday 25 September 09 15:39 UTC (UK) »

Folks,  anything at all on an Edinburgh glassmaker, John Forbes, early 1800s ,who moved to the West Midlands.....Skoosh.
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CaroleW
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Re: John Forbes, Glassmaker, Edinburgh.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 September 09 16:10 UTC (UK) »

Insufficient information given

Was he born in Edinburgh or did he just live there

The West Midlands is a large place - whereabouts??

Was he married - if so to whom and did they have children

What census do you already have him on to save wasting time looking
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Re: John Forbes, Glassmaker, Edinburgh.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 September 09 21:38 UTC (UK) »

Carole, he appears in the 1871 Warwicks Census, Barr Buildings, Whitehead Street,Aston, John Forbes 66 b.1805 Scotland. wife Ann 38 b.1833,Tividale,Staffs.  Henry 19 b.Brookwalls,Derbys. John 12  b.Warwicks, ditto Mary 10 & Sarah 5.  1861 Warwicks, he is b.1821,Edinburgh,Scotland, Mary b.1831, Yeovill, Staffs, Alice b.1850 & Henry b.1852 both Derbys, and John b.1854. He is possibly dead by 1874 when Henry is married to a Mary Ann Corbett. His wife was Mary Ann Dukes, mar'1855. There is a John Forbes 19, b.1822 Scotland with parents, John Forbes 58 b.1783 & Jane Forbes same age,both born Scotland in the 1841 census, Rancliffe Street, St Peters,Nottingham which could possibly be them(no occupation). All glassworkers, Henry.F.Forbes moved to Glasgow with his family in 1900.
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CaroleW
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Re: John Forbes, Glassmaker, Edinburgh.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 September 09 22:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Now that's the type of info that should have been in your original post.

However - as you seem to have all available census info - can you clarify exactly what it is you need help with

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anything at all on an Edinburgh glassmaker, John Forbes, early 1800s ,who moved to the West Midlands

Are you looking to go backwards to find his parentage etc or are you looking for living descendants of his children

You say he married Mary Ann Dukes in 1855 but the 1861 shows son Henry was b 1852 and daughter Alice 1850.  Alice was Alice Dukes not Alice Forbes according to the 1851 census and Henry was Henry Dukes according to freebmd 1852 entry

The 1851 shows Mary Ann Dukes was single so both Alice and Henry were illegitimate

There is a 16yr difference in his age between the 1861-1871 census so if you want to trace his ancestry you will need to buy a copy of his marriage cert to find his fathers name and also his age at that time

Daughter Sarah b 1865 is in Marston Green Cottage Homes Warwickshire in 1881

Possible death

Deaths March qtr 1880 
 
Mary Ann Forbes aged 44  Birmingham  6d 139


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Re: John Forbes, Glassmaker, Edinburgh.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 September 09 07:42 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Carole, I know census info' can be very misleading, the Forbes/Dukes stuff, I knew about. It is backwards I am looking and had hoped to find a glassmaking family of that name, only a few places in Scotland were engaged in glass production and the census gives Edinburgh in this case. I will try for the English Death Cert' I'm a newbie at this caper and your points are well taken. Many Thanks......Skoosh.
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Re: John Forbes, Glassmaker, Edinburgh.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 September 09 17:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi

The English death cert will not give you any info that will enable you to trace his parentage. 

The 1855 marriage cert is your best bet as it will show his fathers name and occupation and if it is John - there is a good chance you have the right 1841 entry
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Re: John Forbes, Glassmaker, Edinburgh.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 September 09 21:44 UTC (UK) »

Carole,  just to confuse matters, there is a John Forbes in the 1851 Census, age 29 tailor journeyman, a prisoner in Birmingham.
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Re: John Forbes, Glassmaker, Edinburgh.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 September 09 21:56 UTC (UK) »

I can't see that entry on Ancestry - what is the reference

1861 and 1871 he was a glassblower - seems unlikely he would be a tailor in 1851
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