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Topic: OPR Birth - Help with writing (Read 1694 times)
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Little Nell
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Another source has transcribed the mother's name as Chessit
It says:
August 14, Geo Watt junr in B.... (still working on that one) in the parish of Boindie had a child by Margaret Chessit in Portsoy baptised named Thrift Witnesses William ?Sleaman in Knockd? and John Gould in Portsoy.
A look at a map may help decipher the names, but at the moment my road atlas is proving less than helpful! I think you may need it to be a little more detailed.
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MonicaLesl
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Nell, you seem to know your Banff place names  Could the first word, from where George Watts is from, be Blairmaud/Blairmands ?
www.abdnet.co.uk/genuki/BAN/Boyndie/locations.html
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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In respect of place name for Witness Wiiliam, I wonder if it Knockdwin (from 1841 census place names) in the parish of Fordyce. The closest I can see for this William in the 1841 census is a possible William Stevenson, a farmer from Knockdwin.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Could be Nell, the problem is there are no dotted 'i' as a style on the entry, so it could be either.
There is only one John Gauld showing in 1841 in Banff, and that's a John at Aird, Fordyce born 1802-06.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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In 1851, mother Margaret is indexed as CHISHOLM:
Ann Anderson 76, Carteir Widow, b. Banff
Margt Chisholm (Anderson) 42, servant, daughter, b. Boyndie
Thript Watt 21, grandson, Saddler Journeyman, b Portsoy
Address: Over Aird, Portsoy, Fordyce
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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flst
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If you look in familysearch for Thrift Watt you will find an ancestoral file for him.His mother's surname is quoted as Chisholm.MonicaLesl beat me to it!Thrift married twice,17 August 1855,in Aberdeen & 6 June 1868,in Stonehaven Kincardineshire.You will be able to find his marriage & death details in scotlandspeople,
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Forfarian
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This is my reading of it - I think all the bits have been supplied but no-one has put it all together.
August 14 Geo Watt Junr in Blairmade in the parish of Boindie had a child by Margaret Chessit in Portsoy, baptised named Thrift - Witnesses William Steinson in Knockdurn and John Gauld in Portsoy
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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angusg
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Hi my name is Angus Glass
My mother Jessie Stewart Beattie was Thrifts
gt gt Granddaughter thru
Robert Beattie and Margaret Gordon
Robert Beatties father was Robert Beattie died
Sunnyside Royal Asylum Sept 1899
His wife was Isabella Watt daughter of Thrift Watt
I know where Thrift is buried.
I have been workin g on this for ten years.
Would also like to know about his other 3 children
of first marriage.2 boys and girl.
I am in conact with Charles Dorian a descendant
of Thrifts second wife in the states.
604 536 4736 canada
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Watt, Beattie,Glass,McDougal, Guthrie,Blackie,
Gordon,Lawson,Anderson,Reid,Stott,Milne.
Duff,and in the states/canda Kidder
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Forfarian
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I am in conact with Charles Dorian a descendant
of Thrifts second wife in the states.
It's a small world. Charles Dorian's daughter-in-law is my 4th cousin!
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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Rowana
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Welcome to Rootschat, Angus!
I'm not sure how much of this you already know, but here is what I have
Thrift Watt was my Great-Grandfather. He was married twice. His first wife was Isabella Lees, daughter of Robert Lees & Janet Richie.
Thrift & Isabella had 4 children, 1) Robert, born 18 Dec 1855 in Aberdeen.
2) Margaret, born 15 June 1858 in Aberdeen. I believe she died before 1871 in Stonehaven, but I'm not certain of this.
3) Isabella, born 29 April 1860 in Stonehaven. Died on 25 Nov 1945 in Montrose.
She had a relationship with (someone) Cameron, and had a son, George Watt, born 14 Nov1877, who was killed at Gallipoli This is your relation.
4) George, born and died on 27 April 1864.
Isabella (senior) died on 26 August 1867. They married on 17 August 1855 in St Nicholas, Aberdeen. Thrift then married Agnes Ann Dorian on 6th June 1868 in Stonehaven. They had 9 children, Bridget, the eldest was my Grandmother.
Bridget married Munro Gove on 10 December 1897 in Stonehaven. They had 10 children. Martha Begg Gove, the 8th child, was my Mother.
I'm not too certain of Thrift's first family, as my line comes through his second marriage.
Thrifts parents (the subject of my original post in this thread) were George Watt & Margaret Chisholm.
I've done a bit more digging since I started this thread, and have discovered that George Watt's parents were another George Watt & Jane Harper.
George (Senior) parents were Alexander Watt & Elspet Davidson.
Alexander & the 2 Georges were farmers, and I've discovered that George (Jun) son John was still the farmer at Blairmaude in 1901.
I have been in touch with Charles Dorian in the US, and he has given me a lot of information.
Another guy who has helped me a lot with information on Stonehaven is Jim Allan. Well worth getting in touch with him. Here's his website -
http://www.geocities.com/stonehavenwarmemorial/index.html
Jim is also based in Canada - Vancouver I think.
Where in Canada are you, and how come you ended up there?
From what you've told me, your grandfather would have been a half-cousin, if there is such a thing, of my mothers. That makes your mother and me sort of second cousins.
Great to find yet another relation !
Cheers
Jim
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