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Bridgwater - Bridgewater
« on: Friday 04 February 05 19:03 GMT (UK) »
I am seeking the birth of Thomas Bridgwater born c1849, he married Louisa Barnes 1870 in Oxford and he died 1900 in Oxford. But I can not find the place of his birth with the Volumn and Page.

Any help would be great...

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Re: Bridgwater - Bridgewater
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 February 05 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lisa

I have just had a look through the transcripts of the 1851 census for Oxford city - and there is no Thomas Bridgewater of the correct age in them - there are 4 Thomas Bridgewaters aged 10, 15, 18 and 38 perhaps the age given on the 1881 census is incorrect??

sorry best I could do

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 February 05 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

I found Louisa in the 1851 census -

Francis Barnes Head Mar  39 General Lab
Ann Barnes Wife 37
Jane BArnes 17 Serv
Ann Barnes 15 serv
Louisa barnes 2
Elizabeth Barnes 2m

all born Oxford - this was in St Aldgates parish so I took a look at the registers and found the marriage

Oct 30th 1870
Thomas Bridgewater FA bach whitesmith otp s/o William Bridgewater blacksmith (dec)   to
Louisa Barnes fa sp serv otp d/o Francis Barnes Boatbuilder

witnessed by John & Lydia Osman

In the burials - 14th August 1900
Thomas Bridgewater aged 51 of MArlborough Rd

so it seems that is his correct year of birth

I checked the 1851 census for a William Bridgewater who was a blacksmith with no luck

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Re: Bridgwater - Bridgewater
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 February 05 20:18 GMT (UK) »
Are they spelling Bridgwater with or without the 'e' after 'g'?

I have the bridgwater address as being Marlborough Rd so that is the right man.

Thank you for you help.

Lisa
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Re: Bridgwater - Bridgewater
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 February 05 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Debbie,

Can you tell me what the letters in the following mean?

1) FA before bach ?

2) otp and s/o ?

3) fa sp before serv?

4) otp and d/o?

Thomas Bridgewater FA bach whitesmith otp s/o William Bridgewater blacksmith (dec)   to
Louisa Barnes fa sp serv otp d/o Francis Barnes Boatbuilder
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 February 05 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lisa

FA = full age ie over 21
otp = of the parish
s/o = son of
sp = spinster - not married before
d/o = daughter of

at the wedding in 1870 BRIDGWATER (no E) , but there are entries spelt both ways in the same register which I think refer to the same family - so it dosn't mean much

you can buy copies of the transcripts on microfiche from the Oxfordshire family history society - they are also starting to produce some information on CD

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 February 05 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Debbie,

Do you have a website for Oxfordshire Family History?

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 February 05 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Here you go

http://www.ofhs.org.uk/

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 February 05 13:50 GMT (UK) »
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Hi Lisa,

I have checked the births between 1845-1859 - and the only Thomas BRIDGEWATER was born in ABINGDON, Berkshire in 1845 -  Dec. Qtr 6 133

I checked the Censuses and see that Thomas always gave his birthplace as OXFORD, but Berkshire was sometimes listed together alongside Oxfordshire in those days.

As this entry was the only Thomas BRIDGEWATER in the time frame, I strongly suspect he could be your man.

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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 February 05 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Cheers Mobo,

If i went to the Oxford Records office would i be able to view all the information that you can get from the original certificates?

Ie I am also looking for a James Alexander Brakespeare who married Selina Bridgwater in 1902, I am trying to find James's Birth and I need to know his parents, will i be able to view the marriage certicate and get the information from the records office in oxford without ordering the certificate?

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 February 05 14:10 GMT (UK) »
 Smiley Smiley Smiley

Sorry Lisa,

The records will only show what I have given you here.

Addresses, parents' names, occupations etc. can only be found on certificates I'm afraid, and the same goes for marriages & deaths.

You will have to 'bite the bullet' and spend your pennies.

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 February 05 14:12 GMT (UK) »
Mobo,

It was not spending the money I was worried about just i am very impatient and i understand it is taking upto 4-5 weeks for certificates to be dispatched at present.

:-)

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 February 05 14:22 GMT (UK) »
 Smiley Smiley

I know the feeling - so am I.  In fact, we've covered this subject before called ARE YOU TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR CERTIFICATES.  But I'll go through it once more.

First, find the address of the Register Office which deals with Abingdon, send them a letter giving the details I've given you, enclose a cheque for £7.00 and an S.A.E,  and you'll only have to wait about 3/5 days.  The secret is finding the correct Register Office.  If you're not sure, ring the main one and they'll tell you which it is.

Happy hunting !
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 February 05 14:25 GMT (UK) »
So to get the certificate for the marriage of James and Selina Breakspeare in 1902 which is at thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,34035.0.html it would be quicker to send it to oxford records office?

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 February 05 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Lisa

The one way you might find it by going to Oxford Record Office - and its a bit hit or miss, is to go through the church marriage registers for the Oxford churches checking 1902 to see if its there - if it is the registers will have all the details that the marriage certificate would have,  it would obviously help if you knew which church the marriage took place in.  If it took place in a registry office though you won't find it this way and may have a wasted trip - just a thought

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