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annejan_1
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Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« on: Monday 17 November 08 20:42 UTC (UK) »

Looking to solve 2 mysteries.  First death information on Duncan McLaren  b. Jan. 11, 1784   m. Isobel McGregor Dec. 11, 1813  then they seem to disappear.

Second his nephew Peter  b. Oct. 30, 1825  m. Janet McLaren Dec. 16, 1849.  She remarries Robert McKerracker in Canada.  Family Bible says Peter died May 20, 1855 but not how or where or where he is buried.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Also does anyone know of any historical fiction depicting life draining the Mosses?       Thanks  Jan

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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 November 08 22:09 UTC (UK) »

I have a copy of an old magazine article about the clearing of the Moss if that would be of interest to you.
I don't know of any fictional writings though.

Cheers.
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 November 08 22:50 UTC (UK) »


Thanks for the reply. I have one article called "The Moss Lairds" by an Achie McKerracker. If yours is different I'd sure be interested as I'm descended from 3 families that lived that experience.  Getting it to me might be a problem as I live in Canada.

Thanks again   Smiley
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 November 08 14:16 UTC (UK) »

PM me with your e-mail address and I will try to send it as an attachment.

Cheers.
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 November 08 15:06 UTC (UK) »


The article came through fine and has been read with interest.   Very complex and long term undertaking was the draining of the moss. Fascinating for me to read how my folks would have carved out a dwelling albeit a bit damp. Also new to me was the varying depth to the peat. From the description it looks like my Kirk Lane folk were in the deep end (10'-12') and probably were experienced from work on the shallower Drip Moss/Low Moss end.

Thanks for your trouble. Its greatly appreciated. Smiley
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 November 08 18:19 UTC (UK) »

Glad you found that article of interest.
Here is a sketch that tries to show the habitats of those engaged in clearing the Moss.



I think I scanned it from a book titled 'Thornhill and its environs'

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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 November 08 22:08 UTC (UK) »


Thank-you Fergie - another real gem to have. I can feel the damp and cold although can't imagine the wind being a problem.

Back to the Fergusons.  My connection is Mary who, while she married John McLaren in Comrie (1782), was living on the moss (Wester Rossburn) until at least 1798. She isn't listed alive or predeceased at the family's location, # 3 Kirk Lane, when the 1814 census was completed for the Moss. The Duncan in my original post was her son. Her daughter Mary married a James Ferguson.

Would you have any idea where ships bound for Canada or Australia left from in the area?

This is all like a great detective novel!!      Cheers,   annejan


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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 November 08 01:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi Anne -
www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists
may help..
I have the Brig Sophia from Freenock 26 Jul 1818 to Quebec and Montreal
There  is McLaren families out of Balquidder and Ferguson families out of Kincardine.
It may help.
Heaps of luck with the McLarens/Fergusons  Roll Eyes cannot find any connections with mine..but you never know LOL
patvp p.s. have a look at the thread Daniel Ferguson (stuck again) that's my lot
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Hall (Dunblane) Robertson (Clackmannanshire) Sneddon (Clackmannan) Cramb (Perthshire) Marshall (Clackmmannan) Michie (Clackmannan) Stewart (Perthshire) Ferguson (Perthshire) McKay (Perthshire) McLaren (Perthshire) Moir (Perthshire)
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 November 08 01:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi again - Do you have a date of birth for Mary Ferguson and a place of birth may help
Have a Mary on my print out of OPR's born 1762 at Balquidder to Duncan Ferguson and Margaret McGrigor.
All the best ..Patvp
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 November 08 21:59 UTC (UK) »

Sorry I have no birth or death date for Mary Ferguson - only that she married John McLaren in Comrie Dec. 17/1782. He is reportedly born @ 1752 in Balquidder. No death dates for either.

They lived at Wester Rossburn and she must have been alive for the last child's birth @1800.  By the census of 1814 they are living on Kirk Lane but Mary isn't mentioned - just John and 7 kids.

They would have been my 3rd G grandparents thru the oldest son Duncan.   

thanks for the try,  annejan  Smiley

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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 23 November 08 00:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi Anne - do you mean 1841 census Huh
That would have made John McLaren c1752 at Least 89 years old.
patvp
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Hall (Dunblane) Robertson (Clackmannanshire) Sneddon (Clackmannan) Cramb (Perthshire) Marshall (Clackmmannan) Michie (Clackmannan) Stewart (Perthshire) Ferguson (Perthshire) McKay (Perthshire) McLaren (Perthshire) Moir (Perthshire)
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #11 on: Monday 24 November 08 01:17 UTC (UK) »


No, I'm referring to the special census commissioned for the Blair Drummond Moss area in 1814. It lists each allotment on each lane on the moss giving the names & ages of the family members, their meagre possessions, where they came from and how long they had been on the moss.  In this John is listed as 62 years old.  Would you like the URL?
    cheers,  annejan
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #12 on: Monday 24 November 08 07:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Anne - Yes that would be helpful, am more curious than anything else. Tongue So many Ferguson's and McLaren's
, the mind "boggles"
My g/g/grandmother was a Jane Ferguson born 1830 Thornhill, Kincardine. she died in 1891 at Deanstone, Kilmadock.
Her father was John Ferguson c1792 Callander he died in 1870 Kincardine, and Jane McGregor 1797-1870.
His father was Duncan Ferguson c1772 (shepherd) and Janet McNab.

Still have a long way to go before I sort them all out.

Don't know if you have the birth from Scotland People.
Parents John McLaren and Mary Ferguson if not let me know have printed them out..it may be a help ..regards patvp
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 November 08 21:52 UTC (UK) »


I just realized that its a document so no URL.  It was kindly sent to me by another McLaren in Scotland.  If you send me a pm I'll send it as an attachment.    annejan
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 16:43 UTC (UK) »



I took the above photo a few months ago while on a visit to Blairbrummond cemetery.
I thought it might be of interest to you.
It's the only stone that I saw bearing both the names 'Ferguson' and 'McLaren'

Could I request a copy of the 1814 census that you have. I only have a copy of one page.

Fergie.


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