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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #30 on: Monday 08 December 08 07:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi valr - Wish I could sort out my McLarens and Ferguson's like that... Grin but we keep plodding on..how lucky you are.
Re the Moss census if you PM me your e.mail address will forward to you o.k.
From a wet and muggy Queensland..Patvp
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #31 on: Monday 08 December 08 07:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jan - Meant to say thank-you before now re the 1814 Moss census..or did I.. Grin
Also do you have any more info re the McGregors at Kirk Lane.
Any info appreciated.
Regards and thanks..patvp
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 08 February 09 12:50 UTC (UK) »

Hello, there is a name I know Annejan, have you still got your old E-mail addy?? McKerracher resercher amongst others, go to http://buchananstewart.tribalpages.com

regards Doun
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 20:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
I am related to McGregors, McLarens and McCallums all from Kirklane.
My grandmother was Marion McGregor 1887-1975 She was born in Kirklane as was my great grandparents, John McGregor and his wife also my great, great grandparents James McGregor and Janet McCallum..  They are buried in the old graveyard at the top of Kirklane opposite the church.
I live only about four miles from Kirklane, Parish of Kincardine, Perthshire, now within Stirling District, so I know quite a lot and have loads of information.
I can easily call there and photograph graves, buildings etc.,
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 19:53 UTC (UK) »


Thanks for the note.  Have you seen the 1814 Moss Census? My folks came from # 3 Kirk Lane (McLarens) - Duncan, age 29 then, was  my 3 Gr. grandfather. He married Isobel McGregor late that year. I'm assuming she is the Isobel from #5, daughter of John & Janet.
My other line comes from #32 Kirk Lane John McKerracher and Elizabeth McNaughton are my 4G. grandparents. My line follows from son Finlay, age 35 in 1814. His Son Robert eventually married Duncan McLaren's daughter Janet. They are my gg grandparents.

Re: the McLarens at #3.  I have a death certificate for Duncan's younger brother Peter. He died in Gargunnock in late fall 1855. It also says his son Peter died on the Moss in the spring of that year and Peter's daughter Isobel died 2 years earlier.

Some of the McLarens and the whole Finlay McKerracher family came to Canada.

Would it be alright if I emailed you direct to tell you who/what I'm looking for?.
Jan
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 19 March 09 20:12 UTC (UK) »

My ancestors are
Alexander McCallum and Margaret McLaren then
Janet McCallum and James McGregor then
John McGregor 1861-1935 and Ann Dunsmore 1858-1949
Not sure if this family line is yours.
My McGregor line goes further back they are
Alexander McGregor 1766-1837 then
John McGregor 1803-1886 and Marion Mene Robertson.

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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #36 on: Friday 10 April 09 10:08 UTC (UK) »

Someone i know was working on an old house, when he found an old newspaper under the floor.
He gave me a quick look one day and i came across this article.
Don't know if it will be of any use to anyone.

                    THE NORTH BRITISH AGRICULTURIST.
                                  December 17 1890.
                    Disappearance of a Farmer.
A farmer named Alexander McLaren
residing in Kirklane, Blairdrummond has been
missing since Wednesday last and fears are
entertained that he has accidentley fallen
into the Forth and drowned.
There was a market at Kippen on Wednesday
and McLaren bought some cattle there, with
which he left the village shortly after darkness
had set in, intending to drive them home.
He was last seen in the vicinity of the
Bridge of Frew, which crosses the Forth in
Kippen Parish.

         
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 11 April 09 13:11 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for posting this piece from the old Paper. As I have McLarens who farmed on Kirk Lane I found it interesting. I must dig out my files to see if there is a possibility it could have been one of them.  I have an ordnance map of the area and see Kippen but not the Bridge of Frew. I am in Canada - can you tell me where it might be or is it a place that doesn't exist now?

A story like this begs as many questions as the details it gives. I wonder, for instance, why wait 'til dark to start back over territory like that?  Whiskey tents as the sale? Smiley  What happened to the cattle?  Huh  etc. etc.    Thanks again for your thoughtful posting.    Jan
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 11 April 09 15:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jan and Fergie - Well at least you two are getting somewhere..am still looking for a marriage of Daniel Ferguson and Margaret McLaren  Huh can't find one anywhere SP or IGI that's in Port of Monteith or Callander..what a conundrum  Grin
too hot and sticky to do anything this morning..looks like rain.
as always Pat

Could this be the one you're looking for?

DONALD FERGUSSON     
            
Marriages:
     Spouse:     MARGARET MACLAREN    
     Marriage:     
26 JUL 1835      Callander, Perth, Scotland

Regards,
Nel
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 11 April 09 20:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi annejan.
If you look at your OS map the Bridge of Frew crosses the Forth on the B822
Kippen too Thornhill road (of course in 1890 the roads wouldn't have been numbered) there is a newer bridge there now but i think the remains of the old bridge are near Fordhead farm.
It looks to me that he has intented to go the B822 turn off at Frew Toll on to the B8031 (Coldoch rd) join the B873 Blairdrummond then down the Kirklane
from there, not  100% sure ,but i think that would have been the nearest crossing point of the river.
There probably was a bit of drinking being done, and being that time of year
it would have been getting dark around 3 in the afternoon.
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 11 April 09 23:08 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Nel for that info but I had already found it just at the begining of this year.
Hi Kenny - Another little snippet of info..where do you find them.  Am going to have another look at the Moss census this morning and see if I can find some connections i.e. Stewart/Ferguson/McLaren..and the whole damned thing.
All the best Pat
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 12 April 09 22:30 UTC (UK) »

valr - I noticed you had McFarlane's from Kirk Lane.

Would the following MI from a stone in Blar Drummond fit with any of yours:

"To the memory of John McFarlane, late of Kirklane died 15th? June 1851 aged 64
John his son died 2nd? December 1852 aged 26
Thomas his son died ? May? 1864? aged 36
Margaret Graham his wife died 19th? ............?
And their? children
Charles died May 18?? aged 43 years
Isabella died March Huh? aged 65 years"


The inscription is quite worn so the above is just what I can make out.

Anne
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 18 April 09 18:02 UTC (UK) »

Fergie,

My name is Ken Hill, my Gt, Gt Gt Grand parents were Peter Ferguson and Ann McNaughtan.  My Gt Gt Grand Mother was Margaret Ferguson, thier daughter b 1840, she married my Gt Gt Grandfather Robert Hill in 1861 and died in Roxburgh in 1917.  Their son Peter, my Gt Grandfather emigrated to Canada with his family in 1903.  In the old manner I am Peter's, Margaret's, Robert's, Peter's, Peter's, David's son Kenneth, and I am understanding your post's correctly we are 1st cousins 4 times removed.  I have been stuck on the Ferguson side for several years now and have some leads the most interesting is the Fersuson's were on the homestead next to my Gt Grandfather in Saskatchewan.  They were always refered to as cousins but I was never able to prove a definative link.  I have my work on Rootsweb world connect at the following link: 
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kandshill_gamma&id=I01578

The information back from Peter and Ann is speculation and I have been working for at least five years off and on to confirm it.  Happy to meet you.  The email contact at the link is correct. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Ken Hill

Thank you Pat.

That Moss Census is a brillient document. I spent ages last night looking through it and will now have to do some serious re-thinking about my ancestors location at that time.
My GGG grandfather, Peter Ferguson, was born in Kincardine in 1801 and I had assumed that they lived on the moss at that time. but neither him nor his parents, Donald and Marren, are on the Moss Census in 1814 although Peter was farming ( and clearing) at Robertson Lane in 1841.
So it's more head scratching and trying to figure out, if they were not on the Moss,  where were they Huh?

Fergie
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #43 on: Monday 20 April 09 15:50 UTC (UK) »

Hello Cousin Ken.

Yes there is a definite connection there as Peter and Ann were also my G. G. G. grandparents.

  You have email.

      Robert.
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Re: Kincardine by Doune McLarens from Kirk Lane
« Reply #44 on: Friday 01 May 09 21:29 UTC (UK) »

Try the Gargunnock history website.
It is run by a John Mclaren who's family have been in the area since the 1700's
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