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LEY Family
« on: Tuesday 18 November 08 01:20 UTC (UK) »
Seeking any information on the family of Richard and Mary Ley. I have in my family tree one daughter, Catherine Ley born in 1777 in Devonport. Can anyone add to this or at least verify my information?
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Re: LEY Family
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 December 08 01:05 UTC (UK) »
I dont know about Catherine Ley, but I have a Caroline Ley from exeter.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,197251.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,206962.0.html
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Re: LEY Family
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 December 08 01:25 UTC (UK) »
Any idea on who Caroline's parents were and about what year she was born? Catherine's parents were Richard and Mary Ley.
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 December 08 04:08 UTC (UK) »
My database says Caroline Ley was born in Exeter in 1833 and died in 1887 - no parents.

There were 2 girls named Caroline Ley in Exeter in the 1841 census - both aged 8.

One lot of parents were George Steer and Caroline (probably a stepfather)
and the other lot were William Ley and Mary and children Mary, William, Francis & Georgiana.

YOB probably came from her marriage certificate, she married John Evans in Exeter in 1859 and they had  8 kids - 5 boys and 3 girls. YOD came from the BMD
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Re: LEY Family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 December 08 01:56 UTC (UK) »
Hi ae0306t:

I also have a Mary Ley in my family, she was married to James Strong.  Mary was born in 1802 In Bradford, Devon and died in 1871 in Holsworthy, Devon.  Her husband James was from Black Torrington, Devon.

Marys' father was Samuel Ley born in 1772 in Bradford, Devon.  His wifes' name was Ann ?

Perhaps a connection?

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Re: LEY Family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 December 08 17:05 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

Are you sure about the birthplace? I found this extracted record on the IGI,


Catherine LEY
Christening:  11 MAY 1777   Saint Cleer, Cornwall
Father:  Richard LEY 
Mother:  Mary


She could have siblings,

Richard LEY
Christening:  13 MAR 1775   Saint Cleer, Cornwall

John LEY
Christening:  01 AUG 1779   Saint Cleer, Cornwall
 

I also found this marriage in Pallot's Marriage Index which might help decide if she is 'your' Catherine or not,

Catherine LEY    of Liskeard
Robt HOOPER    blacksmith of Calstock
1798
St Cleer, Cornwall


This looks like the above family,

http://www.rootschat.com/links/051k/


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Re: LEY Family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 December 08 21:30 UTC (UK) »
Hi Daisypetal:

I think there must be a lot of different Ley families by the sound of it.

The Mary Ley I have married into the Strong family, so may not be related to the previous queries.

I thought  they might be distantly connected perhaps. 

I hope I haven't confused anyone with my Ley names from Bradford. 

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 13:16 UTC (UK) »
And yes I am sure that MY Catherine Ley was from Exeter. She is consistent about her birth place in 1851 and 1881 census records and all other census records she was born in Devon, NOT Cornwall.

Even though she was born and raised in Exeter, when she married John Evans, they lived in the town of Budleigh Salterton in Devon where she raised her 8 kids.
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Re: LEY Family
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 December 08 02:22 UTC (UK) »
Daisy,
You are correct. This is correct family. I have had conflicting records on where exactly Catherine Ley and Robert Hooper were born. I do know they were found in some documents in St. Cleer but I also found a record of Robert Hooper being born in Devonport.

Lois,
Not sure if there is a connection. Catherine's parents were Richard Ley and Mary Jane. There might be a connection between Catherine and Samuel but as I do not know siblings of Catherine, just don't know.

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Re: LEY Family
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 11 December 08 16:11 UTC (UK) »
HI,

I found this baptism at findmypast,


Robert HOOPER
Date: 13 Feb 1774
Parish: Calstock, Cornwall
 
Father: Joseph HOOPER
Mother: Hannah
 
 
More info can be found here,

http://www.calstock.info/census/people_intro.htm


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Re: LEY Family
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 11 December 08 19:52 UTC (UK) »
Daisy,

Thanks for the information and the link. There is a lot of info on that web site. The one baptism that I could not find is for Thomas John Hooper. He would have been born October of 1840. I am fairly certain that Thomas was the son of Mary Hooper and so not legitimate. In 1851 census he is listed as a grandson not a son. Mary was daughter of Richard Ley Hooper. Would Thomas's baptism be recorded if he was not legitimate?

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 December 08 01:36 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

I have often seen baptisms of illegitimate children, (often written as baseborn) so I don't think that would necessarily mean he wasn't baptised, but I can't find it either Undecided


This looks like his birth registration,

Thomas Johns HOOPER    Dec Q  1840    Liskeard    9  167

if you wanted to confirm his mother. I wonder if the middle name Johns is a clue?



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Re: LEY Family
« Reply #12 on: Friday 12 December 08 02:41 UTC (UK) »
My reason for believing he is baseborn or illegitimate are the census records.

In 1841 census there are parents Richard and Ann. Ann would be about 47 at the time of his birth. Not impossible that she was the mother but ? The oldest daughter Mary is 16 or 17. In that census they did not list the relationship to head of household.

In 1851 census Thomas Hooper is listed as a grandson. His mother(?) Mary is not in the household.

In 1861 Thomas is living with Ann Hooper and is again listed as grandson. In this census they are the only ones in the home.

I have been unable to locate any birth records or baptismal records for Thomas John Hooper to prove that he is the son of Mary Hooper, grandson of Richard Ley Hooper and Ann Wills. The one you found is a very good possibility. I will need to order it and see. I am guessing it would not list his father if parents were not married.

Perhaps his father's last name was Johns.

Thanks,
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