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krisesjoint
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Hi Mick,
I actually think the middle name is Werry not Henry.
1841 we have the head of the household as Mary WHERRY
I thought there may have been something in this but can't find a marriage to fit.
Mary Ann WERRY bap 2 Jan 1820 Truro St Mary parents John and Mary
There are some possibilities listed Mary and a Mary Ann (Bodmin and Truro) but no Woodward's to correspond with the marriages. Truro one is a minor father William.
Do you have John in 1851? If I am looking at the right person I see by 1861 he is married and living in Yorkshire (Wife from Wiltshire) They don't appear to have any children.
Cheers Kris 
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mickmack1942
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Morning Kris.
The idea that you have is fairly good, I did not have Marys beginnings thanks for that, the wherry female
aged 65 is poss Mary's mother, wherry is quite common in cornwall its the 41c that gets in the way with the lack of info,
as to the 51c no I have not been able to find them in it, but looking through the census in lingdale Yorks area I noticed that there are quite a few cornwellians in the area as miners, I suppose john just followed them up there perhaps his farther might just be close by, but looking at Marys age John might be illigit, the female from wilts is a Garrett girl from
Horningsham by Longleat house the 2 children are cousins of hers, they are twins born in Bermondsey Surrey to a George/ Martha Newman also of Horningsham, the newmans married into the garrett family.
I cannot find the marriage of John/Elizabeth in the BMD's or if they were married theres a lot of places between wilts and York.........if you have any ideas or more light to throw on this...........mick
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Pringle..N-yorks. Swann..Nthamptonshire. Newman..Wilts. Whites...Surrey/london. Filce..London/surrey. McCarthy...Co Cork Eire.
Atkinson...N-Yorks. Irvine... Sothern England
Cook...glouc/shire. Alderton... Thingoe/Suffolk
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mickmack1942
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Kris. I have been looking for the marriage of john and Elizabeth,
the weird thing is I think I have found it, but with a big question mark, in as far as in the Q1 1861 bmd's I found a ...
John woodward 7b/256 Nottingham
eliza Garratt 7b/265 " "
I tried in the notts section and found a pauline replied,
she could not offer an answer, it would appear that they are two different marriages, whats the chance of that, I will try the Notts regstrars on monday if they will have a look see, you never
now, it might be a misstake in the past, have you very come across anything like it................wierd to say the least......mick
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Pringle..N-yorks. Swann..Nthamptonshire. Newman..Wilts. Whites...Surrey/london. Filce..London/surrey. McCarthy...Co Cork Eire.
Atkinson...N-Yorks. Irvine... Sothern England
Cook...glouc/shire. Alderton... Thingoe/Suffolk
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krisesjoint
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Nate at 9 weeks
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Hi Mick,
Sorry to say I really have doubts with that marriage. Looking at the images, the refs are correct. This lady is Eliza not Elizabeth - Both entries also have 4 names attached to the entries. If there was somehow an error I would expect one to have 5 names and the other only three.
Very frustrating that neither of the Woodward marriages are showing up. With this one, given Elizabeth's age, I actually wondered if she may have been previously married.
I really wish I could find a 51 entry for John too. I tried and tried yesterday to no avail. (its 7 am here) I suspect his mother may have been Mary Wherry's daughter but as you say the name Wherry is common and I can't spot a marriage to prove it. She could just as well have been a single mum and Mary Wherry just helped her out so she included Werry in Johns name. The shortfalls of the 1841 census unfortunately - in this case particularly the lack of marital status or relationships is hindering - 1851 may have at least given us a marital status for his mum - perhaps she is remarried and John is listed under his stepfathers name.
I think the only way forward there is John's Birth Certificate.
Kris
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I am in South Australia Mick. It was actually 7.30 by the time I finished posting....LOL. (8 now) Its chilly at mo. I have my dressing gown on so most of me is warm but my fingies are freezing. Last week or two summer was certainly here - we had temps up around 100f/37c but it had gotten cold again. Bit of rain the last couple of days, though looks fine today - todays estimated max about 20c.
Kris
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