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westmorland
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need help tracing two brothers please!!!
« on: Friday 21 November 08 23:10 UTC (UK) »
hello there,

would be grateful if anyone can point me in the right direction.

trying to find out about my two gt gt uncles, i would like to know if they served in ww1 and did they have any children.

they are james w. warburton aged 8 in 1881
and john A. warburton aged 5 in 1881

ther parents were james and sarah Ann(vagg) warburton.

in 1881 they were living at 11, daisy street, Hulme, manchester.

any help would be much appreciated indeed.

regards

james
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Re: need help tracing two brothers please!!!
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 November 08 23:25 UTC (UK) »
Hi James

James' middle name was William?
What was John's -  Albert or Alfred?

Do you have them on the 1891 or 1901 Census

Cheers
AMBLY
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westmorland
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Re: need help tracing two brothers please!!!
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 November 08 23:37 UTC (UK) »
hi AMBLY.

James middle name was indeed William and just realised he was my great grand father, so i know a bit about his children etc, but know nothing about John A. Warburton.

i know that their father had a brother called John Alfred so he may have been named after him.

i have them on an 1881 census taken from a site called family search house hold records which i must have downloaded a few years back so don't know how accurate it is.

cheers

james
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Re: need help tracing two brothers please!!!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 November 08 00:00 UTC (UK) »
There are these in 1891:

1891  RG12; Piece: 2796; Folio 137; Page 2

Burns Home Industrial School Heaton Norris Lancashire
(I think this was Barnes Home I.S)

John Alfred Warburton 15 yrs born Manchester

1891 RG12; Piece: 2834; Folio 102; Page 7

Vicarage Lane Frodsham Lordship Cheshire

John Warburton head 38 yrs carter retired b Frodsham
James W nephew 17 yrs Carter b Manchester

(although 1881 has James (father of the boys) born Manchester.)
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westmorland
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Re: need help tracing two brothers please!!!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 November 08 00:15 UTC (UK) »
hi ther, many thanks for that info indeed. everything seems right with the james w. and john alfred with regards to age etc, but it says john warburton head aged 38, but he would have been 36 in 1881.

is it possible a miss print regarding the fathers age? because as you say in the 1881 it says he was born in manchester which as far as i know is correct

regards

james
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Re: need help tracing two brothers please!!!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 November 08 00:50 UTC (UK) »
cheers heywood, im certain that's the john alfred im looking for, just a matter now of finding what happened to him after leaving that place.


cheers

james
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Re: need help tracing two brothers please!!!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 November 08 01:15 UTC (UK) »
Hello! Have you tried looking in www.freeBMD.org to see when or if they married?   Grin  Pat
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KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne, Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton; SCOTT: Newcastle-on Tyne and Norham, NBL; FAIRLESS: Longbenton; REAY: Ponteland; HARDING: Whickham; PAULIN: Berwickshire; SLIGH: Berwickshire; LOCKEY: Ryton & Yorkshire; PAXTON: Norham, NBL
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 November 08 01:59 UTC (UK) »
Hello James.....I am not certain that this is one of your great uncles, however, in 1891 he was in Lancashire??  The freeBMD death records show a John Alfred Warburton died age 21 in the June Qtr 1896 in Chorlton district of Lancashire (citation: 89C) 427. The age seems pretty close; the death certificate may not have much useful information if he did, indeed, die in a workhouse. I'll keep looking to see what I can find for James William Warburton..  BTW, PLEASE don't hesitate to ask any questions at any time...we Rootschatters were all beginners at one point in time.  Grin  Pat
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KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne, Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton; SCOTT: Newcastle-on Tyne and Norham, NBL; FAIRLESS: Longbenton; REAY: Ponteland; HARDING: Whickham; PAULIN: Berwickshire; SLIGH: Berwickshire; LOCKEY: Ryton & Yorkshire; PAXTON: Norham, NBL
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Re: need help tracing two brothers please!!!
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 November 08 15:36 UTC (UK) »
hi everyone, many thanks indeed to all of you  for all the info, excellent!!!!!!!!

i have a feeling patrexjax, that the john Alfred warburton you found is indeed the one I'm looking for, unfortunate he died at such an early age, so there will be a story in ther also to discover at some point in time. so once again big thanks to everyone!!! going to sit back now and digest all the info i have been given.

would also like to thank helana for all the info she sent me on James and John's mothers side of the family (sarah Ann vagg) and the warburton family as-well.

big thanks to you all, and no dought i shall be back when i have taken everything in that was sent me with even more questions.

regards

James
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