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v i c k y
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Hi there! I'm new to the site and this is my first post. The place looks fantastic and I can't wait to be a part of it. 
As on the subject of abbreviations, I wondered if anyone knows what "BS" means. "British Subject", perhaps? Sorry if it's a silly one. My g-g-g-grandfather moved to Bristol, I believe, from Germany. He shows up on the 1881 census as follows:
John WESTERMAN W 63 M (BS), Germany
Rel: Father
Occ: Labourer In Sugar Factory (Refiner)
Thanks and all the best,
Vicky
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Barrington, Westerman (originating from Hannover), Long (originating from Prussia), Lorymore, Flyng, Porter - all Bristol, Gloucestershire.
Grimes - Bridgwater, Somerset.
Lamb - Poplar, Essex, Hither Green, Kent.
Dwan, Turner, Cole, Carter, Walker - all St Olaves/Bermondsey/Rotherhithe/Southwark/Stepney.
Gawkrodger, Renard, Craven - all Baildon/Shipley, Yorkshire.
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi Vicky,
Welcome to RootsChat
Yes, BS does mean British Subject.
Is this him:
WESTERMAN John of Germany - Grosvenor Rd Bristol 1881 1881 census RG11 p2486 f85
I found him in the german sugar workers database at http://www.mawer.clara.net/intro.html
definitely worth a good read !!
Question is: was he a British Subject or a Naturalised British Subject ?
Plenty more about this, if you want to follow it up on the
Immigrants board: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,135.0.html
Good hunting,
Bob
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe; Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861) and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site. All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) |
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Malcolm009
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Vicky, Welcome to RootsChat Yes, BS does mean British Subject. Is this him: WESTERMAN John of Germany - Grosvenor Rd Bristol 1881 1881 census RG11 p2486 f85 I found him in the german sugar workers database at http://www.mawer.clara.net/intro.htmldefinitely worth a good read !! Question is: was he a British Subject or a Naturalised British Subject ? Plenty more about this, if you want to follow it up on the Immigrants board: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,135.0.htmlGood hunting, Bob |
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Malcolm009
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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What is it with sugar and German immigrants? My Great grandfather started a jam factory in Leyton stone in east london sometime in the late 1800s. I have absolutely no idea why?!
Malcolm009
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi Malcolm,
probably the continental bakers and sugar bakers had skills which were lacking in Britain ??
In the other direction, there are several RootsChat topics about british textile workers going to Prussia and Russia and even founding mills and factories there. The industrial revolution here was faster moving, which meant that the skills and technologies were more advanced here than on the continent, hence the migration.
One of the side effects of this is that many (now unskilled) german workers had no work and emigrated to America.
Seems like people tend(ed) to move to where the work is .... some to a new county .... some to a new country
Bob
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