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dobfarm
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Granny Tidmarsh (Maiden name Mary Fletcher b1874 )
Thomas Tidmarsh b 1771
« on: Monday 24 November 08 20:32 UTC (UK) »
 Hi All

I am stuck on Thomas Tidmarsh b 1771 in the Hampton in arden near Balsall Warwickshire 1841 census as to parents and Parish register of birth or bapt.

His wife is Pheobe but as the 1841 census did not state linkage but she was the in age level to Thomas.

His son Thomas, bapt 1805 Atherstone Warwickshire just above Hampton in arden parents were Thomas and Pheoby Tidmash (No R)

His Daughter Charlotte Tidmash( again No R)bapt 1809
Mancetter Warwickshire father Thomas Mum Pheoby

other Daughter Martha TItmas ( No R or H)bapt 1811 Hampton in arden Dad Thomas mum Paebe

There is  Thomas Tidmarsh bapt 1772 in Ascot under wychwood

There could be more in Parish register could anyone help Please

Thomas Titmarsh bapt 1773 Coventry (The one I think it is)

Thomas Tidmarsh bapt 1773 Inkberrow

Thomas Tidmarsh 1776 Inkberrow
Thomas Tidmarshbapt 1775 Ratley
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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth.
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Granny Tidmarsh (Maiden name Mary Fletcher b1874 )
Re: Thomas Tidmarsh b 1771
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 February 09 18:43 UTC (UK) »
added from Nuneaton and Atherstone family history society

Church of St Peter, Mancetter. This was the Parish Church of Atherstone from earliest records until about 1830 when the Church of St Mary in Atherstone was allowed to be used.

These are the entries for the two children of Thomas and Phoebe.

Thomas son of Thomas & Phoebe Tidmarsh.
Received into the Church July 1806.
P Bap July 9  1805

Charlotte dau of Thomas & Phoebe Tidmarsh
Received into the Church Dec 1809
P Bap July 9 1809.

The P Bap means previously baptised so they had been baptised into a non conformist church, possibly Methodist and re baptised into the Church of England as required by law.
This may explain why the marriage of Thomas & Phoebe is hard to find.
Phoebe ( according to 1851 census was born in Balsall & probably married there.)

1841 census.
Balsall St, Hamlet of Balsall, Parish of Hampton.
Thomas Tidmarsh 70 Agricultural labourer, born in Warwickshire.
Phoebe 60  born in Warwickshire.
Had 3 lodgers living with them. No family there.


1841 census
Balsall St, Hamlet of Balsall, Parish of Hampton.
Thomas Tidmarsh 35 Agricultural labourer
Sarah                     30
Thomas                  10
William                     6
John                         3
Elizabeth                  2
Mary                         1   

( Ages of adults rounded down to nearest 5, so Thomas senior was between 70 and 74.)


1851 census. Balsall, Solihull
Phoebe Tidmarsh, 72, widow, pauper, born Balsall.  ( abt 1779)


1851 census, Balsall, Solihull
Thomas Tidmarsh 45, widower,Agricultural labourer, born Atherstone ( 1805 not 1806 as we now know from Church record.)
Elizabeth daughter, 12, scholar,born Balsall
Joseph son, 8, born Balsall
Samuel son, 6 born Balsall
Sarah daughter, 3 born Balsall.

www.freebmd.org    Death of Thomas Tidmarsh, March quarter, 1851,Solihull.
If this is your Thomas he died jan/Feb/ March of 1851 and registered at Solihull which covered Balsall. So shortly after, on the 1851 census Phoebe is shown as a widow.


Atherstone had a hiring fair in September where men would gather to get work for the following year. This is probably how Thomas & Phoebe came to spend a few years in Atherstone.
You could try asking a question on Genforum England for someone who knows the Balsall area.   Google for ‘Genforum england’    Top right box, jump to Warwickshire forum and ask for info.
Perhaps someone knows about non conformist chapels in Balsall where Thomas & Phoebe may have married.
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 There sibling were at Mancetts (Slit surname change Tidmash[no R]) Thomas Tidmash bapt 1804/5
 Mancetter Married Sararh Bott who died 1850 then Thomas married 2nd wife Elizabeth Harrison 1857 -
Charlotte Tidmash bapt 1809 Mancetter
and then moved to & for  Martha Titmas 1811 Hampton in Arden,
Martha married  Thomas Mullis 1832 Hampton in arden there daugher is with Thomas and Phoebe on 1841c H/Arden and Phoebe widow  1851c Daughter as above Mary Ann Mullis b 1835
 
 Mary Tittmas 1814 Mary married Chares Stain 1834 in Hampton in harden
 and married John Davison (below.)
 
Ann Titmouse 1818 Hampton in arden  Of Thomas and Phoebe not marriage
 
Thomas and Sarah Bott had Ann Tidmarsh b 1828 in Wythall then moved to Hampton in Areden Balsal to his Dad Thomas by 1841
 
as there is only one marraige of a Ann Tidmarsh in 1848 Hampton in arden to John Davison( Danson) on 1851c at Bolsover with her brother Thomes  as Wifes brotherb 1831 Balsall on 1841 c with Thomas and Sarah Bott (wife)(Grandson of Thomas  and Phoebe and son of Thomas b 1805 Atherstone
 
 
Charlotte married a William Smith Kenilworth 1835 but had a daughter illigitmate 1828 Mary Ann Tedmarsh
Charlotte's other daughter Cathrine on b 1837 on 1851 c with Phoebe(Phebe then) With her cousin Mary Ann Mullis.
Martha married  Thomas Mullis 1832 Hampton in arden there daugher is with Thomas and Phoebe on 1841c H/Arden and Phoebe widow  1851c Daughter as above Mary Ann Mullis b 1835
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Derbyshire, Warwick. Yorkshire, Stafford and Worcestershire.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth.
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