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sft456
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Frederick VH NEWICK
« on: Monday 24 November 08 22:25 UTC (UK) »
Can anyone please tell us when our Grandfather Frederick Victor Harcourt Newick was b @1897 d 1962 Harpenden. Herts

Thanks

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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:02 UTC (UK) »
Do you have him on any census or other information that might help  as I cant seem him anywhere  Huh
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:11 UTC (UK) »
Death: Frederick V.H. NEWICK aged 65, Sep 1962 St Albans 4b 149

So 1897 is about right for a birth...

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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:13 UTC (UK) »
Marriage Sep qtr 1923

Haines Dorothy L (spouse Newick)   
Newick Frederick V (spouse Haines) 
Grimsby 7a 1666
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:16 UTC (UK) »
sft456 has the marriage on another thread (I was just looking for the wifes death for him) will do a link in a mo.

There is no birth in the indexesf for Fred that I can see on FreeBMD under Newick or even Harcourt.

So I think it would be best if sft got the marriage cert to see what it says about his father and go from there

Here is the thread about Dorothy
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,344014.msg2226814.html#msg2226814
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:24 UTC (UK) »
How about this?

RG13 2976 7 6

Stove?? Rd Loughborough

Lois Rebecca Milne 28 mar bn Leicester
Joy Blanche dtr 9 bn Belgrave
William Christmas Louis son 8 bn Loughboror
Louis Wilfred Gladstone son 6 bn Loughboro
Frederick Victor Harcourt  3 bn loughboro

all children surname Milne it seems

no husband there. No occupation for Lois.
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:29 UTC (UK) »
In 1918, a Lois R Newick maried a Charles walker
Jan/Feb/Mar 1918
Leicester reg distr 7a 474

I wonder if that is her
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:37 UTC (UK) »
But I still cant see a birth for Frederick or any of his wonderfully named siblings - under Milne, Newick, or anything else!
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:40 UTC (UK) »
me neither, and this is the only Lois Rebecca born right timeframe in Leicester !

Births Mar 1872   
 
Duckworth  Lois Rebecca    Leicester  v7a p257   


.... and the only Lois Duckworth marrying is 2Q1901 in Huddersfield !
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:46 UTC (UK) »
Was just looking at Lois Duckworth in 1891
RG12 2524 147 41

lots of siblings!
Will only post full details if she becomes more definite ... but at least here is ref if we need her again.
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:47 UTC (UK) »
yeah - siblings all with a middle initial, but looking at Births in Leicester, none seem of the required flavour to be passed on as names ...
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 13:54 UTC (UK) »
Good day to all  Smiley

This reminds me of an old thread ... just to avoid duplication
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,285162.0.html
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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 14:00 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Tati on Tuesday 25 November 08 13:54 UTC (UK)
Good day to all  Smiley

This reminds me of an old thread ... just to avoid duplication
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,285162.0.html

Of course!  I knew I'd seen these names before.

Thanks for stepping in to avoid our duplicating all that work. (I was just about to post the 1892 birth of Ivy Blanche L. Newick and suggest the purchase of a certificate...) Shocked

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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 14:04 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for the info on Fred & Dot. It seems they might have married at St John's Grimsby, as her father before her.

You won't find birth certs for the 3 boys as I recently found out their father was actually living a double life. His actual wife was Jane but she bore no children. So he also had a fling with Lois with whom he had 3 boys, none of whom was registered. She wasn't his wife, though later in 1911 and 1930 swore on oath that she was!!

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Re: F V H Newick
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 14:20 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: sft456 on Tuesday 25 November 08 14:04 UTC (UK)
You won't find birth certs for the 3 boys as I recently found out their father was actually living a double life. Jane

Whatever their fathers lifestyle, their births should still be registered.

thanks Tati for  stepping in and stopping us going over old ground yet again.

so sft, out of interest - have you got Fredericks marriage cert - what did he say about who his father was?

And to go back to the original question that you posed to start this thread - how is anyone going to "tell you when Frederick was born" when there has already been all this work on the other thread trying to find just that! Isnt it obvious that the same leads will be followed?
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