Gibby1968
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I am trying to find my 3x great grandparents who both came from Meath, Republic of Ireland.
They are Eugene and Catherine Callaghan (formerly Whelan).
According to the site http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/index.php they married on 12 June 1870 at St Mary's, Drogheda, Meath, Republic of Ireland.
Their son Michael (my 2x great grandfather) was born on 29 May 1871 in Navan.
The above site says my 3x great grandfather was called Owen and IGI says Eugene.
I would be grateful for any help received and I apologise if this post is in the wrong place 
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Will have this moved to Co. Meath board so more people with local knowledge will see it (Immigrants to Britain board is for posts about people coming into the U.K.).
Eugene Callaghan and Catherine Whelan had at least 2 other children after Michael: Eugene (18 Nov.1878) and John (11 Oct.1880), both born Co. Meath in Ireland (there was no Repbulic of Ireland until 1920s).
Eugene and Owen are used interchangeably in Ireland which may be why you've found records with both names used for the same person.
The marriage of Eugene and Catherine should list their fathers' names and occupations (unless illegitimate) and their residences at the time of the marriage as well as the names of two witnesses (who might be relatives).
Did the family stay in Ireland? if so, the 1901 and 1911 census might have more details.
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Gibby1968
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I forgot to mention that I knew about Eugene junior and John. Sorry 
I have looked for Eugene and Catherine on the Irish 1901 census but I haven't been able to find them.
As far as I know, the only people to come to England were my 2x great grandparents. I eventually found them on the Irish census as they weren't on the UK census.
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Gibby1968
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I have replied to my thead which I placed yesterday (in the wrong place!).
It now appears here and in the original place I posted.
Where should I reply?
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Your thread was moved to Meath board (from Immigrants to Britain) a short while ago as I said it would be.
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Gibby1968
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Perhaps someone can tell me how to delete this duplicate post?
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Gibby1968- this is not a duplicate post. You originally started this thread on Immigrants to Britain board (for people coming to U.K.) yesterday.
Last night I replied to the thread and said it will be moved which happened this morning.
The thread is now on Meath board which is where it belongs. It's not a duplicate post and you don't need to do anything more.
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Gibby1968
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The marriage record I have for Eugene and Catherine unfortunately doesn't given either father's name.
Really helpful!
Thanks for telling me about the name Eugene/Owen.
I thought I had the wrong information from the Irish site I used.
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Gibby1968
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There were two witnesses to the marriage.
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Is it a copy of the actual marriage certificate or a church record of the marriage that your have?
If no fathers' names are listed on the marriage certificate then there are several possiblities. They might have both been illegitimate, the father's might have been dead (and not recorded as deceased) or the officiant forgot to record the names. Are the fathers' occupations listed by any chance or is that box also left blank?
Witnesses were often, but not always, relatives- sometimes one for bride and one for groom.
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Gibby1968
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The record I have is a print out from the Irish site I mentioned earlier.
I'll just dig out the information and post the witnesses names in mo.
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Gibby1968
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The witnesses are William Downes and Mary Neal.
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The site says this under records available for Co. Meath: "These are finding indexes and the original record should be checked for accuracy." so it looks like the information you got could be from the church records and not the actual marriage certificate. You could try emailing them to clarify the details you've been given.
To order Irish certificates:
www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm
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Gibby1968
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I've been looking around to see if I can find any information on Eugene and Catherine but haven't come up with anything.
All I need to go back from them is an approximate year of birth.
I've searched IGI and roots web but there aren't any records on there.
Also searched the Irish site where I found their marriage but there's nothing on there either!
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Civil registration of births in Ireland started in 1864 and there will be no birth certificates before that date. For earlier dates you need to check for church records (if they exist) but to do so you need to know where they lived (parish if not actual townland).
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