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Re- District Asylum Inverness
« on: Wednesday 26 November 08 15:10 UTC (UK) »
Hello Everyone
I'm new to this site but not Genealogy been hooked for over 20 years.
I'm trying find out about my Great Grandfather Charles tillman (Tilman,Tilmon,Tillmon) born 1866 Nettlestead Kent England, married a Sophia appears on England census 71-1901, the story we have says he ran away and I have found him on Ellis Island records 1910 can't find him coming back but he died 16 Feb 1920 at District Asylum Inverness he cut his own throat poor man, the death cert says he was a janitor usual address 35 Outram St Invergordon.
Would there have been an inquest and how did he get from America to Scotland.
Any help or info would be brilliant
Kim  Smiley
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Re: Re- District Asylum Inverness
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 15:36 UTC (UK) »
Hi Kim

Welcome to Rootschat  Smiley

There are no inquests as such in Scotland. Instead such cases would be reported to the Procurator Fiscal who would decide whether or not to hold a fatal accident inquiry.


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Re: Re- District Asylum Inverness
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 15:40 UTC (UK) »
I see  that there is a Register of Corrected Entries note on the death certificate. If you go to the certificate on the Scotlands People site and click on the Red RCE icon at the top of the page, this will take you to the entry and give more information and, quite probably the report of the procurator fiscal.


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Re: Re- District Asylum Inverness
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 16:00 UTC (UK) »
Hello again
That was quick, thanks I will check it out
Kim
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Re: Re- District Asylum Inverness
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 19:55 UTC (UK) »
Hello Gadget
Thanks for the tip you were right just confirmed he committed suicide, how can I check out his address and if he was in the asylum or they just took him there. So to be a pain but Scottish records are so different.  Smiley
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Re: Re- District Asylum Inverness
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 20:10 UTC (UK) »
If it says'usual address' then that is his normal address. I'm not sure how you could check if he'd been admitted for a period of time before he committed suicide or it was an emergency admission at the time  Undecided

I see it says 'for hours' on the cause of death.

Was there any indication on the RCE to show if he'd been admitted for a while?

There might be medical records but not sure how you'd obtain them. Local newspaper reports might be another source.


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Re: Re- District Asylum Inverness
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 20:29 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for all your help and advice, I will have a dig
Kim  Grin
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Re: Re- District Asylum Inverness
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 May 09 11:10 UTC (UK) »
Hi

I have always found health services archivists are really helpful.I had a relative who died in tragic circumstances at a psychiatric hospital in Edinburgh in 1945. They sent me a photocopy of her records after the senior psychiatrist had phoned me to talk through her notes. I couldn't believe how helpful everyone was.

I think the Inverness district asylum was probably Craig Dunain Hospital ( now no more). The health services archivist for the North of Scotland is Fiona Watson who I found really helpful too.
Her -mail is :
f.watson[at]nhs.net

Good luck

Carolyn
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Re: Re- District Asylum Inverness
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 May 09 10:50 UTC (UK) »
I second what csa has said.    Definitely contact Fiona Watson and she'll point you in the right direction.
For a person to be committed to a Mental Hospital, he/she had to be examined by two different doctors and a report submitted to the Sheriff Courts.
This will show all sorts of information including next of kin etc. and may show how he came to be in Scotland.
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