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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 29 November 08 13:12 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Bob, first time anything at this level of detail has been fed-back.

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I also said on the other topic that all requests need to be considered in terms of  performance. As an example, here is some general information to Newf's enquiry about "mark all as read":

To do this, the software needs to create a matrix of topics/members. Every time a member reads a topic, the topic is marked as read for that member.  Any time somebody adds something to the topic, that topic must now be marked as "unread" for all members (apart from whoever actually posted the new reply  - we've had this discussion before:


As you've said, the feature is already partly implemented -

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Part of this in place already (otherwise we couldn't have the "Show unread posts since last visit." link)  but to do this for every member and every topic is an awful lot of work.

.... and by saying its already done for each individual user and topic, it must have all the components already in place - maybe a later release of this Forum-ware would implement it .... but then that probably means money ?

I'm a member of quite a few Forums, all of which except RC have the feature, and dont seem to suffer related performance issues.

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As I mentioned on another topic, suggestions for improvements and wishes for new fuctionality do get passed on to admin.

Apologies, but I was hoping for something more formal - and I do understand that not everything is do-able, tell me formally and I'll stop asking.

 Smiley
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 29 November 08 13:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi All,

      Just a quick question Grin

When you look through all the posts that has had no replies what will happen to the

ones where people have not signed into Rootschat for years Roll Eyes

I have gone through some on the Oxfordshire and Berkshire boards in the past and found

some posts that i could reply to but the person hasn't  been on for years so chances are they

wouldn't see my reply anyway Huh

              Sue


 
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 29 November 08 13:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sue

It's a risk!  Sometimes the Mods ask the question but we don't want to "bump" threads to which we have no answers.

The original poster (OP) wil get an email notification in the usual way, provided they haven't changed their email address and that they originally had notifications enabled on that thread (which is the default).

Some of our early users will have changed email address without changing their profile, and others have adopted new RC identities instead of asking for a password reminder or similar.  Others have gone to a better place ...

If you feel like answering, others may still benefit though, so don't let that put you off, especially if you have access to resources that others might not have.

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 29 November 08 13:56 UTC (UK) »


Thanks for making that clear Arranroots and will keep in mind your advice Smiley

          Sue
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 04 December 08 13:54 UTC (UK) »

Just got to add a comment about all this crazy moving

This thread got moved while I was composing my reply!!!!!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=345947.0

A thankyou for the first reply at 13.07 today
My reply - which took 10 minutes or more to compose - I was checking things - posted after a hiccup(time out message & whatever) at 13.36  today
I then discover it is sitting in completed requests - with the
"This post has been moved" thread timed at 13.27 today
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,345975.0.html

Is there a competition going to see who can move the threads the fastest. Is only one person allowed to answer each question?

One minute, folks are posting queries "Is this complete" on threads that are 6 months old, the next a thread is less than a day old and zoom - tis gone.

Can we AT LEAST wait 24 hours before moving threads. Alot of folks look at a board to see if they can help. I check the immigrants to Australia board - I DON'T check the completed board.

Trish


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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 04 December 08 14:18 UTC (UK) »



Can we AT LEAST wait 24 hours before moving threads. Alot of folks look at a board to see if they can help. I check the immigrants to Australia board - I DON'T check the completed board.

Trish




I would agree with this (well I would, wouldn't I, since it was my query that Trish replied to so helpfully  Smiley  ).   

Intial queries often lead on from the original question and answer to information that the person hadn't thought of asking for.   It would be a great pity to close all queries off as 'COMPLETED'   before anyone has had a chance to see if there is anything they can follow it up with. 

I don't tend to look at requests marked as completed - I expect a lot of other posters don't either.
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 04 December 08 14:26 UTC (UK) »

Agre with Trish here - the moving of posts is getting out of hand. Surely it should be up to the Original Poster to mark a post as completed when he/she thinks it has been adequately answered.  Maybe exceptions could be made for ancient posts where the OP has disappeared from RootsChat.
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 04 December 08 16:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Erato

I agree, certainly on the Surrey and the London and Middlesex boards where currently there is a lot of work currently going on, the original posters are being asked to add completed if apropriate.  They are certainly not being moved without the say so of the original poster.

I have been through my messages and added completed to a number but those that I don't think are sufficiently answered I have left open on the requests board in the hope that some day some one will be able to help me!

Kerry
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 04 December 08 22:00 UTC (UK) »

Agre with Trish here - the moving of posts is getting out of hand. Surely it should be up to the Original Poster to mark a post as completed when he/she thinks it has been adequately answered.  Maybe exceptions could be made for ancient posts where the OP has disappeared from RootsChat.

Hi Erato

I don't care if they move posts that haven't had a response for a month (regardless of the OP being around) but 29 minutes!   Huh  Has to be a competition. Then again - maybe it is just alot of folks making work for themselves - I used to work in an organisation like that. But again, if it is a competition - no-one is going to win other than London/Middlesex - an unfair advantage from the start.

Trish
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 04 December 08 22:10 UTC (UK) »

There is a case for keeping things open for a while. The original question may be answered, but others might have an input (not least, "the last post was mistaken"!), and sometimes there is some additional info that might be helpful.

I've recenty asked a couple of questions and the thread has been closed after one answer. Which in one case at least was wrong!

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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 04 December 08 22:16 UTC (UK) »

Is it alright to allow the team who look after things here to breathe without reading an objection if they do? 

Please......... remember none of us is perfect and mistakes do happen.

Nell
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 04 December 08 22:26 UTC (UK) »

Of course - breathe away!  Grin

Sorry if my input appeared to be petulant - certainly not intended. It was meant to be constructive.

I understand the need to clear out old threads. I was just suggesting it can be a bit quick sometimes!  Smiley I guess it's impossible to ask the poster "are you happy it's all answered?" before closing it. A tricky call.

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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 04 December 08 22:37 UTC (UK) »

Surely it should be up to the Original Poster to mark a post as completed when he/she thinks it has been adequately answered.

Is this not what is happening? Surely in most cases the posts are being marked completed by the original poster before they are being moved?  I know this is the case on the Durham Board. We were requested by the new mod. to review old look-ups and if they were complete to mark them as such. I have amended several of mine to show that they are now complete, after which they were moved to the completed board.

It just so happens that there are several new mods who are doing a lot of housekeeping work at the same time which is why there has been such a flurry of moving. Is it really such a major problem?
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 04 December 08 22:50 UTC (UK) »

I'm in favor of breathing too - nobody wants brain dead moderators.

Could there be a standard length of time [15 days, 30 days?] before threads are moved to the completed pile if the OP has not already done so?
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Re: Why is everyone moving everything?
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 04 December 08 23:03 UTC (UK) »

Perhaps a reminder stickied at the top of each board IN RED AND UPPERCASE
...along the lines of...

Please mark your requests 'completed' in the subject/topic heading, when your request has been answered... 

Just trying to be helpful  Wink

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