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Topic: PENROSE: 1195 and all that (Read 574 times)
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goggy
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Hi Chris, just a tickle,Ive seen Penrose associated with derivatives of Prendergast,exactly WHERE dont recall.With the De prefix its a sure bet to be involved in the Norman 1066 caper,England+Ireland.
Good Hunting!
Goggy. 
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goggy
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Hi Chris,not that I have take notice of specifically,my chase has been the name I suggested may lead you to yours,there are literally thousands of sites+names to investigate.Believe me,Ive seen em!
Stay with it,
Good Hunting.
Goggy.
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goggy
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Just a maundering,there is some sort of a Roll of these invaders,somewhere,which of course I cant recall now that its needed!
Then again,one George+a William were the originators of the Waterford crystal factory,more useless info!
Cheers, Goggy
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AussieEd
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Hi Chris,
There is a site you may find useful (if you don't already know it). Please Google 'Penrose Family History'. I myself am a Penrose relative, via the Wynstons (variants de Wynston/Winston/e) and the Botreaux (variants Bottereaux/Botterel/l), although there is much more work to be done on the latter.
Please be aware the very early parts of the site go back so far as to be doubtful, eg it has me descended from Joseph of Aramathea and way beyond. I have emailed the site asking if there is any documentary evidence. In my view, it is unlikely.
The later parts of the site seem to be very good.
Regards,
Ed Hall.
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toni*
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Hi i have a copy of 'The Domesday Book Englands Heritage then and now (1985)'
i can't see the name in the Cornish section???
this is what it says for Cornwall:
Robert, Count of Mortain, was the biggest landholder in England after his half-brother King William, and Cornwall was above all his province. There he was lord of many more manors than the king himself; the Exchequer Domesday lists 248 manors and the Exon version nearly 40 more, while the latter held a mere 19.
Most of the county was poor and sparesly populated; for each man recorded by Domesday there were 160 acres of land. The manor s tended too be small, and no less than ten are assessed at as little as one acre. Cornwalls maritime importance did not assert itself until well after the Norman Conquest: Penzance for example is not mentioned until the mid fourteenth century and Bude is first recorded in 1400
Cornwall was divided into seven Hundred and that of Connerton known today as Penwith had only 14 manors. Only six mills are listed two of these at Launceston on the countys eastern border. The reaseon it has been suggested was the technology of harnessing waterpower was only gradually spreading from the east both Dorset adn Somerset had more mills than Devon in which in turn had more thatn Cornwall
In Conrwall many of the old place names were mistranscribed by the domesday scribes thus identification is often tentative.
if anyone wasnt more info. i can look it up to see what it the book says
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AussieEd
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Hi Toni,
I've had a brief look at Cornish manors but not to the depth that you have. Anyway, I have by no means relied on the Penrose Family History site. It is quite complex and explains how the name 'Penrose' developed from an earliar name.
Although there is more work to be done on the Botreaux/Bottereaux, I have established they were Normans who took the name of their village in Normandy. They established a castle (since demolished ) at Boscastle, which was named after them.
I have much better knowledge of the Wynstons, today spelt 'Winston' or it's variant, Winstone; although there still appear to be some 'Wynstons'. They go back to Sir Drogo (or Drew) de Wynston, Lord of Tre-Wyn, Pandy, Monmouthshire, Wales; or at least, the name does. Their ancestry goes back much further.
Thanks for your useful information. I have only recently started researching Cornish ancestry and all details help.
Regards,
Ed Hall.
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AussieEd
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Hi Toni,
If you Google 'phillimore's directiory' or 'phillimore's cornish directory', a list of sites will come up. Haven't had time to check them yet so am unaware what they are like.
Thanks for info!
Regards,
Ed.
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