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devonblue
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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And some more (well sort of)
Kezia Saunders, Musicians wife aged 46 born in Notts
and her kids : Mezzino Son aged 14,
Wallice Son 12
Lonser Son 4
No sign of the musician himself.
All living in a Caravan, Leicester St Margarets. RG10/3272/43/13
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Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt,
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset: Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills
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brujavu
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Hi,
I'm researching one of my past lives as the daughter of musicians in the 1800's. I have the place, at least for a period of time, narrowed down to County Cork, Ireland, and although I have no specific information that we were Travellers, it seems quite likely, and I would like to look into this a little further. Do you have any information on Traveller musicians in County Cork in the 1800's?
Thank you,
Barbara
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kdc650
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Have you any names or further details Barbara?
Keith
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kdc650
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Many thanks to all who have taken the trouble to reply to my questions over the past couple of months. Edward Draper was the son of Samuel Draper, who features heavily in my research, since in addition to being a peripatetic fiddle player he maintained a dancing booth at fairs and feasts. Italian musicians were frequently to be seen on the streets of towns during the nineteenth century, often playing the hurdy gurdy. No doubt some WERE employed in circuses or tent show of various kinds. Thanks too for details of the caravan dwelling Saunders family.
I will be very pleased to hear of anything relevant on the subject at any time. Good ancestor hunting to all.
Keith
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brujavu
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Keith,
No, the only other details I have so far is that I may possibly have been involved with a married man, or have been suspected of it... there was definitely a jealous wife involved, and I may possibly have killed him. That part is still pretty vague, but if I knew of any Traveller musicians in County Cork during the 1800's I'm hoping I could do some research, see some photos, find out what instruments they played and anything else that might spark a memory. I know it's not much to go on, but that's the nature of this kind of research. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly! 
Barbara
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jackie0051
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My gt grand father was Frederick William Lovely Towhey (1852) a blind travelling musician.
Married Ellen Pattingale Birmingham 1879, she also was and itinerant musician.
I have never been able to trace back further than Frederick.
On the 1881 census the family are living in Brighton and Frederick states he was born in Dublin. Listed as Itinerant Musicians.
On the 1891 census living in Liverpool he states we was born in Woolwick Kent but it's definitely the same family.
On the 1901 census states born Woolwich, living in Manchester as a dealer in musical instruments.
1911 census Ardwick Manchester states the same.
Frederick died in Lambeth 1928.
Ellen Pattigale was born 1862 Selby York.
Ellen died in Camberwell London.
There were 7 children from the marriage but only 2 survived.
My grandmother born 1883 was the only child to carry the Lovely name but it's listed as Loval on her birth cert not Lovely.
On Fredericks wedding cert he states his father's name is James Towhey a Station Master.
Happy to provide you with documents I have, I do have some photo's but none with musical instruments.
I'm also tracing the other side of my family Irish Traveling Musician and Showmen, Brennan's and McCormick's.
Regards Jackie
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Brennan. Harden. McElhinney, Towhey, Lovely- Towhey, Loval Towhey. Pattingale, Bentley. Scott. Pool.
Kilkenny, Dublin, Co. Donegal. England. Berwick on Tweed. Birmingham. Manchester America, New York, Oregan.
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