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Lady Di
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No LDS Films in Australia!!
« on: Monday 08 December 08 20:36 UTC (UK) »

If you are thinking of ordering a LDS film in Australia....

DON"T BOTHER!!!

Since the LDS made an "excutive" decision to close down the LDS Film centre in Sydney and send all films to USA, the service and availability of films is almost non-existant.

I ordered a film last August. It's not on backorder & according to LDS  no-one else has the actualy film out - and I'm still waiting........

Whoever made this very wise decision has made it almost impossible to order any films. They say that if/when we receive an ordered film we can now have it for 3 months, but what about the next person wanting the film - they have to wait in line. Therefore it can take over 6 months to receive a film if a couple of people have ordered the same film (and in some cases they say they don't have multiple copies  Undecided)

ALL films now come from Salt Lake City to Oz - but NZ were "allowed" to keep their films and Australia is unable/not "allowed" to order from NZ.  Roll Eyes

What a bl.....y mess!!  Angry

OK - rant over (sorry folks)

Di
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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 03:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Di

How very sad - but perhaps not completely unexpected, given the availablility of information on the internet. I wonder if it related to the reduction in use over the past few years? or their new project for providing images online?

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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 03:52 UTC (UK) »

I'm a bit lost here!!!  Maybe it's me!!!!   Roll Eyes

Unless it is Later Day Saints, I have no idea what LDS film is.

What does the film refer to?

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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 04:09 UTC (UK) »

In August I ordered 2 films and one fiche. The films arrived a few weeks ago, but I'm still waiting for the fiche. Doesn't seem right to wait all this time for something which only cost me $2. I was told that when fiche are ordered, a new one is made and the FHC keeps itafter use, so there must be a holdup in the production.  Wink.  Undecided  I haven't contacted them to find out what's going on ... yet ....

Do you think they might be planning to close the Family History Centres too?

I think you're probably right Trish - there's a big push to put everything online ....
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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 07:19 UTC (UK) »

I think you will find it is connected to the transcription effort but not in the way suggested.

The push to get the films digitised & transcribed may have produced the situation that occurred here in the UK in the 1950/60s when the paper records were temporarily unavailable due to their being filmed.
When there are large numbers of films & fiche being copied to allow transcriptions & indexing to take place this unfortunately produces a backlog in orders.
It could be worth checking that the order has not been misplaced.
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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 07:52 UTC (UK) »

In August I ordered 2 films and one fiche. The films arrived a few weeks ago, but I'm still waiting for the fiche. Doesn't seem right to wait all this time for something which only cost me $2. I was told that when fiche are ordered, a new one is made and the FHC keeps itafter use, so there must be a holdup in the production.  Wink.  Undecided  I haven't contacted them to find out what's going on ... yet ....

Do you think they might be planning to close the Family History Centres too?

I think you're probably right Trish - there's a big push to put everything online ....

Hi Ruskie

I ordered a fiche years ago and was told the same story - it never arrived  Undecided  Undecided  As it was a census fiche - things have changed, so I never chased it up. Despite Guy's comment, the loss of the Sydney film centre sounds very sad.

Red

There are LDS family history centres throughout the world. If you find an extracted record of interest on the IGI, you can find your closest LDS centre and order this film. You can then go to the centre and view the film containing the baptism/marriage information. As it is a film of the parish records, it will often contain many more than one record for your family. For those of us many miles away from the original parishes, it is sometimes the only method to see (a copy of) the original parish records.

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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 07:59 UTC (UK) »

In August I ordered 2 films and one fiche. The films arrived a few weeks ago, but I'm still waiting for the fiche. Doesn't seem right to wait all this time for something which only cost me $2. I was told that when fiche are ordered, a new one is made and the FHC keeps itafter use, so there must be a holdup in the production.  Wink.  Undecided  I haven't contacted them to find out what's going on ... yet ....

Do you think they might be planning to close the Family History Centres too?

I think you're probably right Trish - there's a big push to put everything online ....

Hi Ruskie

I ordered a fiche years ago and was told the same story - it never arrived  Undecided  Undecided  As it was a census fiche - things have changed, so I never chased it up. Despite Guy's comment, the loss of the Sydney film centre sounds very sad.

Red

There are LDS family history centres throughout the world. If you find an extracted record of interest on the IGI, you can find your closest LDS centre and order this film. You can then go to the centre and view the film containing the baptism/marriage information. As it is a film of the parish records, it will often contain many more than one record for your family. For those of us many miles away from the original parishes, it is sometimes the only method to see (a copy of) the original parish records.

Trish

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You can also look up online to see which films are available to order from the LDS family history centres here
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 08:43 UTC (UK) »

Hello Lady Di,

No LDS films in NZ either. New Zealand is having the same problem as Australia with all LDS film having to be ordered from the USA instead of Sydney. Along with a number of others at my nearsest FHC in NZ I am  still waiting for films ordered in September. It used to take only two or three weeks for an ordered film to arrive.

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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 08:51 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for everyone's comments
(strange that I didn't receive notification about any replies  Huh )

My order has "theoretically" been sent from USA film centre once a week every week for the last six weeks. Almost as believable as "the cheques in the mail"  Roll Eyes

Ruskie and Trish - "all outstanding orders will be despatched from USA when possible"   Huh    Huh

I'd love to think that they were copying all the films to put online but according to "them that know these things" very few films will be added to the online records in the forseeable future.

It all sounds like utter confusion to me. Does sound like one half doesn't know what the other half is doing though.

Such a shame. I do hope some miracle will happen and instantly everyone's film will be available online free and completed tomorrow  Grin

We live in hope

Di


Hello Lady Di,

No LDS films in NZ either. New Zealand is having the same problem as Australia with all LDS film having to be ordered from the USA instead of Sydney. Along with a number of others at my nearsest FHC in NZ I am still waiting for films ordered in September. It used to take only two or three weeks for an ordered film to arrive.

Regards
KiwiRose.


Oh No KiwiRose - So that why we couldn't order films from New Zealand.  Sad

Thanks for the information and I'm sorry that you are in the same boat as the rest of us.

Not a good excutive decision me thinks  Lips Sealed

Di
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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 09:06 UTC (UK) »

Whilst I comisserate with the posters from Oz, it seems to me that they are now experiencing the same level of service that people in the provinces in the UK have been experiencing for some time.  In August I ordered a microfilm which according to the LDS catalogue was held in their central London centre, but I had to wait nearly 3 months for a film to arrive from the US.  It seems to me that the films in the major centres stay in the major centres.

About 2 months ago I emailed the LDS about the availability of the BVRI index in the UK, and I'm still waiting for a reply.  Seems to me that they run by a bunch of enthusiastic amateurs, but then, they are not really in the business of supplying data to family tree researchers.

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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 09:42 UTC (UK) »

I have never had trouble buying CDs from the LDS Nick - you ring up, pay by credit card & within a week they arrive. I haven't ordered any recently, but if the Sydney centre still exists, I assume this still happens.

In UK you can't order from the London Centre. There is a specific number to ring - I will see if I can find same - it has been mentioned on RootsChat in prior posts.

A word of warning - do not buy LDS CDs on Ebay - In Australia they attempt to sell them (& probably succeed) at 5 times the direct price from the LDS

Trish

I believe this is the address - still looking for phone number
The Church of LDS Distribution Centre, 399 Garretts Green Lane, Garretts Green, Birmingham B33 0UH
Found this thread - which seems to indicate my information may be out of date  Undecided  Undecided
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,29667.0.html

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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 11:16 UTC (UK) »

Oh dear Trish, I may have along wait for the fiche then.  Wink (it's is a PR fiche).

Guys explanation makes sense, but that doens't explain why a fiche that has not arrived as it needs to be 'produced' first rather than loaned out.

I will check on my order.

I am hoping that finding a birth record on this fiche will break down a major brick wall, so I really need it, otherwise I wouldn't be too bothered .... Smiley

I had no trouble purchasing the BIVRI in Australia either Trish. Very quick. I did phone them though, rather than email, and I agree with you that Nick should place his order this way.
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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 12:20 UTC (UK) »

Seems to me that they run by a bunch of enthusiastic amateurs, but then, they are not really in the business of supplying data to family tree researchers.


That is correct.  They do it as part of their service to the church and very few are paid.
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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 14:07 UTC (UK) »

Oh dear Trish, I may have along wait for the fiche then.  Wink (it's is a PR fiche).


I am hoping that finding a birth record on this fiche will break down a major brick wall, so I really need it, otherwise I wouldn't be too bothered .... Smiley


Ruskie, why not post it on here, someone might be able to help you  Grin  Grin

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Re: No LDS Films in Australia!!
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 14:18 UTC (UK) »


That is correct.  They do it as part of their service to the church and very few are paid.

The centre that I visited (but I haven't been there for quite some time) was completely run by volunteers. Absolutely wonderful and very helpful folks (turned out my husband & one of the volunteers shared some ancestors - very handy  Smiley  ).

Every researcher I have met has always been grateful for what the LDS provide - the CDs they sell are the cheapest genealogy CDs on the market and the online IGI is the most wonderful resource for those of us living so far from our roots. It is simply a little sad if the era of the easily accessible films is slowly ending - but the next generation will probably have a completely different system. Guess we just have to get there  Smiley

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