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Topic: Who is Maria's mother?*COMPLETED* (Read 350 times)
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MKG
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Hi all ...
My GG Grandmother, Maria Wright, was baptised in All Saints Church, Tatterset in 1846. But there's no BMD record for her - at least not under that name (there are BMD records for all the other children born after 1837). Her parents were, according to the baptism record, William Wright (born 1814, Tattersett) and his wife Frances. The birth date of Maria's older brother means that Maria was either two months premature or she was not, in fact, Frances' daughter but that of Frances' eldest daughter Anne Wright (born 1829).
I know where Maria was in 1871 and 1881 (married to my GG Grandfather). However, her whereabouts in the 1861 and 1871 census might provide additional clues as to her real mother.
William's and Frances' children were, in age order, Anne, Elijah, Elizabeth, Marianne, Mary Anne, Henry, Charles, Maria and Charlotte.
Could any nice Christmas Fairy do the 1861 and 1871 lookups for me?
Thanks ... Mike
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« Last Edit: Monday 15 December 08 17:25 UTC (UK) by MKG »
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Griffiths, Howard, Johnson, McLeod, Rizz(a)(i)(o) Berwick (Tweedmouth and Spittal), Blyth(N'land) between the wars, Wrexham, Tattersett
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Trees
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In 1851 William and Frances are in tattersett with Liza 15, Ann 12 Elijah 10, Edward 7, Jeremiah,5 William 3 and Mary 1 mo Very strange no sign of a maria 1846 Trees
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Tati
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Hi all,
1851 HO107/1826 52 9 Tattersett, Norfolk William Wright, head, 53, Ag lab Frances, wife, 48 Elijah, son, 20, Ag lab Hezekiah, son, 17, Ag lab Jeremiah, son, 15, Ag lab, b. Suvring? William, son, 12, Errand Boy Mary, dau, 10, scholar Charles, son, 8, scholar Maria, dau, 5, scholar
All bar Jeremiah born Tattersett
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1861 - RG9/1245; Folio: 204; Page: 5 - Tatterset
but a bit old ? whoops, this isnt right 
Charles Wright 74 Head Hannah Wright 45 dau unmarried Maria Wright 17 Grand daughter Dan Wright 17 John Wrix 40 son in law
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Necromancer
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isnt this them in 1861 ?
RG9/1245; Folio: 203; Page: 4 - Tatterset Cottage
William Wright 63 Head Gardener Rudham Francis Wright 57 Wife Gatesend Mary Wright 20 dau do Charles Wright 17 son do Maria Wright 15 dau Gatesend
Jacob Walker 15 Grandson Gatesend Elizebeth Walker 12 Granddau Rudham Rebecca Walker 10 do do
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Trees
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Oops sorry my list was 1841 no wonder a child born 1846 wasn't there Ho107 30 fo 3 p7
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MKG
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Well - I'm gobsmacked. It's taken me a few more hours, but here it is ...
There WERE two Wright families with parents called William and Frances. BOTH had sons called Elijah and Charles and daughters using the Mary/Marianne/Mary Anne/Maria formula. BOTH lived at some point in Tattersett and BOTH lived at some time in East Rudham - and, at some point, both at the same time. Thank goodness for birth registrations, because Tattersett registered in Walsingham and East Rudham in Docking - but I still wouldn't have been able to work it out without your census information which puts the correct children in the appropriate households. I'd managed to get them hopelessly intermixed.
There's little doubt that the two families were closely related, but I'm now sure that my direct ancestors are the William and Frances found by Trees and Tati in 1841 and 1851. Edward, incidentally, was baptised Hezekiah, which ties in nicely with Elijah and Jeremiah.
And, having taken out the children who belonged to the other family, it means that there's no longer a mathematical question about who Maria's mother was - it was Frances.
The moral, I suppose - be very, very wary of family naming traditions. Now I'm going to take a couple of aspirin.
Mike
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Griffiths, Howard, Johnson, McLeod, Rizz(a)(i)(o) Berwick (Tweedmouth and Spittal), Blyth(N'land) between the wars, Wrexham, Tattersett
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